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Chaparrastique
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 Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: Desire to learn low among Korean adults |
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| cmxc wrote: |
| there is a slim possibility that their studying will boost their careers,” |
Because advancement in the Korean workplace is never based on merit.
It is blatantly and consistently based on youth, looks, or personal alliances rather than actual ability or knowledge.
Korean ajosshis have rigged their own fantasy land here whereby they get the choice jobs and promotions based on beng male. They need not develop skills or ability, they just have to have been born with a Y chromosome.
For a female to advance high enough to even touch the glass ceiling, she not only has to look like a million dollars, she has to pander to the male ego constantly and pretend to be a submissive plastic doll without a mind.
So of course there's no reason to actually waste time on gaining extraneous knowledge. You just have to learn how to play the game of office politics. |
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jvalmer
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: Desire to learn low among Korean adults |
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| Chaparrastique wrote: |
| cmxc wrote: |
| there is a slim possibility that their studying will boost their careers,” |
Because advancement in the Korean workplace is never based on merit.
It is blatantly and consistently based on youth, looks, or personal alliances rather than actual ability or knowledge.
Korean ajosshis have rigged their own fantasy land here whereby they get the choice jobs and promotions based on beng male. They need not develop skills or ability, they just have to have been born with a Y chromosome.
For a female to advance high enough to even touch the glass ceiling, she not only has to look like a million dollars, she has to pander to the male ego constantly and pretend to be a submissive plastic doll without a mind.
So of course there's no reason to actually waste time on gaining extraneous knowledge. You just have to learn how to play the game of office politics. |
That essentially describes my last office job back home. However we only had like 20 women in 3 buildings of over 1000 people. |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| Anyways, my desire to learn ended the day I got my degree. I'm sure if you talk to most adults, they don't want to learn, they just want a nice comfy life. |
That was the first thing that jumped into my mind when I saw the thread title.
Most people have no interest in learning after adulthood. Perhaps it is even more so here in KR, dunno, but it's a normal human thing. |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:35 am Post subject: |
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| KimchiNinja wrote: |
Most people have no interest in learning after adulthood. |
I do.
I love learning new things, I have an endless curiosity about the world.
I read a lot in free time- for my own enjoyment. I love history, the arts, politics, the environment, science, novels. There is something called the joy of knowledge.
I have no interest in the treadmill scam of academia however. My university days are over. |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Chaparrastique wrote: |
| KimchiNinja wrote: |
Most people have no interest in learning after adulthood. |
I love learning new things, I have an endless curiosity about the world.
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Yeah but you and I are weird. 
No interest in any additional formal education though. Pay a bunch of money for some outdated or totally incorrect "knowledge" from some chump who has been locked in a classroom for 30yrs?? No thanks. |
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| KimchiNinja wrote: |
Most people have no interest in learning after adulthood. |
What comes after adulthood? |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
| KimchiNinja wrote: |
Most people have no interest in learning after adulthood. |
What comes after adulthood? |
Word splitting. |
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
| KimchiNinja wrote: |
Most people have no interest in learning after adulthood. |
What comes after adulthood? |
Word splitting. |
Cool...nice to know what is coming next.
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
| KimchiNinja wrote: |
Most people have no interest in learning after adulthood. |
What comes after adulthood? |
Word splitting. |
Cool...nice to know what is coming next.
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It's already here. |
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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: Desire to learn low among Korean adults |
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“People’s capacity for integrated thinking and their ability to look at problems from a novel point of view and solve them is essential to enhancing competence of society as a whole. Authorities must make efforts to boost people’s motivation to learn,” she said.
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I don't get why every thing here needs to be directed by the authorities. If the people don't want to learn, they don't want to learn. It's not the government's place to step in and motivate them. |
"This is Korea."
Where it's always somebody else's job to get things done, usually the government's. |
No, this is THE Korea...
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| So of course there's no reason to actually waste time on gaining extraneous knowledge. You just have to learn how to play the game of office politics. |
dun dun DUN, dun dun dun DUN dun... |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:06 am Post subject: Re: Desire to learn low among Korean adults |
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| nicwr2002 wrote: |
| atwood wrote: |
| fermentation wrote: |
| cmxc wrote: |
“People’s capacity for integrated thinking and their ability to look at problems from a novel point of view and solve them is essential to enhancing competence of society as a whole. Authorities must make efforts to boost people’s motivation to learn,” she said.
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I don't get why every thing here needs to be directed by the authorities. If the people don't want to learn, they don't want to learn. It's not the government's place to step in and motivate them. |
"This is Korea."
Where it's always somebody else's job to get things done, usually the government's. |
As in The U?
No, this is THE Korea...
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| So of course there's no reason to actually waste time on gaining extraneous knowledge. You just have to learn how to play the game of office politics. |
dun dun DUN, dun dun dun DUN dun... |
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Squire
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Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:57 am Post subject: Re: Desire to learn low among Korean adults |
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| fermentation wrote: |
| cmxc wrote: |
“People’s capacity for integrated thinking and their ability to look at problems from a novel point of view and solve them is essential to enhancing competence of society as a whole. Authorities must make efforts to boost people’s motivation to learn,” she said.
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I don't get why every thing here needs to be directed by the authorities. If the people don't want to learn, they don't want to learn. It's not the government's place to step in and motivate them. |
Same mentality in the UK. Any issue comes up and people look to their precious state, rather than sorting things out themselves. I remember first paying attention to that when during snowy weather the roads were closed and people were being interviewed in a (somewhat) remote village (on the first or second day since the snow came) complaining that they couldn't get food and asking what the government were doing about clearing the roads. It seemed staggering that rural people who weren't within a short walk of a place to buy food didn't keep supplies of food for that exact eventuality. Idiots. Let them go hungry and learn a lesson. |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Desire to learn low among Korean adults |
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| fermentation wrote: |
| cmxc wrote: |
“People’s capacity for integrated thinking and their ability to look at problems from a novel point of view and solve them is essential to enhancing competence of society as a whole. Authorities must make efforts to boost people’s motivation to learn,” she said. |
I don't get why every thing here needs to be directed by the authorities. If the people don't want to learn, they don't want to learn. It's not the government's place to step in and motivate them. |
It's how things are.
There will always be individuals who have "the ability to look at problems from a novel point of view and solve them", those are the leaders of society. But the population has avg intelligence by definition, thus does not have extraordinary curiosity or desire to learn.
The masses have to be led, told what to do. I guess govt could poke them and try to make them want to learn, seems unrealistic to expect any positive result though. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:50 pm Post subject: Re: Desire to learn low among Korean adults |
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| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| fermentation wrote: |
| cmxc wrote: |
“People’s capacity for integrated thinking and their ability to look at problems from a novel point of view and solve them is essential to enhancing competence of society as a whole. Authorities must make efforts to boost people’s motivation to learn,” she said. |
I don't get why every thing here needs to be directed by the authorities. If the people don't want to learn, they don't want to learn. It's not the government's place to step in and motivate them. |
It's how things are.
There will always be individuals who have "the ability to look at problems from a novel point of view and solve them", those are the leaders of society. But the population has avg intelligence by definition, thus does not have extraordinary curiosity or desire to learn.
The masses have to be led, told what to do. I guess govt could poke them and try to make them want to learn, seems unrealistic to expect any positive result though. |
So then, hell it is and shall ever be.
Amen. |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:28 pm Post subject: Re: Desire to learn low among Korean adults |
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| atwood wrote: |
| So then, hell it is and shall ever be. |
Maybe, but the masses are happy being uneducated, and the educated are happy to exploit the masses, so it all works out...I guess.  |
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