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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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 Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:46 am Post subject: Re: I had sex with my boss |
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| alongway wrote: |
| Troglodyte wrote: |
| alongway wrote: |
| aq8knyus wrote: |
| Both these laws are taken seriously (and can be seen as stupid) if you're caught. Korea is second only to your run of the mill ME country when it comes to punishment for adultery. There are definitely negative outcomes. |
What are the going to catch him for? |
They can't catch him for anything. The requirements to successfully prosecute someone for adultery are very strict. What it comes down to is catching the two people in the act or immediately afterwards if there is some distinct proof of what just happened (bodily fluids being just about the only proof accepted). The police have to be there to witness it and no laws can be broken to catch them in the act (or else the evidence is inadmissible in court). Even then, only certain activities are actually considered adultery from a legal point of view. The only way that they could catch the OP now would be if he confesses to it at the police station (assuming that the husband knows and files a complaint) or if the woman got pregnant. Even then, depending on his situation he might be able to claim that he didn't know she was married, in which case the prosecutor would have to prove beyond doubt that any reasonable person in his situation should have known she was married.
I asked about this once and some colleague who work in the legal domain said that since 2008 (the last time that the laws on adultery were challenged and confirmed constitutional) about 10,000 people have been convicted of it. Of those people, very few get more than probation. The maximum that you COULD get is 2 year in prison (paying a fine to get out of prison time is not a possibility with adultery). It's very rare to for someone to be convicted (since it's incredibly difficult to prove) and uncommon to actually do time for it. There would have to be something more to it than just plain and simple adultery for you to actually do time. Unchastity is a lot more common but that's a civil matter. It's a lot easier to prove and it provides not only justification for divorce but also a big payout for the victim. Still, that only affects the cheating spouse. The OP wouldn't be affected by this. |
That was more or less my point. Since they're separated it's a known issue. If they are in the middle of a divorce or living apart, permission to engage in sex with someone else is implied in those situations. |
If the divorce proceedings are currently taking place then it's not adultery. The husband and wife can legally hook up with whoever they want and however often they want. If they are simply separated (but haven't filed for divorce) then it's adultery. There was a case a few years ago in which a couple were in the process of getting divorced but put the proceedings on hold (at the wife's request). While it was on hold the husband "committed adultery" and the court accepted it as adultery on the grounds that the divorce proceedings were not currently taking place. In that case the husband and his mistress both did a bit of time (a couple months if I remember correctly).
But realistically speaking, you're right. The OP is completely in the clear and has nothing to worry about. |
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ChrisPK
Joined: 07 Aug 2014
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:55 am Post subject: Re: I had sex with my boss |
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| alongway wrote: |
That was more or less my point. Since they're separated it's a known issue. If they are in the middle of a divorce or living apart, permission to engage in sex with someone else is implied in those situations. |
That's not the point. Think about how many ESL teachers have gone through that hagwon, how many foreign cocks have gone through her. |
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EZE
Joined: 05 May 2012
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: I had sex with my boss |
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| ChrisPK wrote: |
| That's not the point. Think about how many ESL teachers have gone through that hagwon, how many foreign cocks have gone through her. |
She's married. Her cherry was probably popped a long time ago, probably well before she met her husband.
Good luck meeting a virgin here. You'll need it.  |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: I had sex with my boss |
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| Troglodyte wrote: |
| They can't catch him for anything. The requirements to successfully prosecute someone for adultery are very strict. |
Exactly, low probability of anything happening.
Adultery is the norm here, taking drugs is not the norm here. When in Rome... |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: I had sex with my boss |
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| KimchiNinja wrote: |
Adultery is the norm here, taking drugs is not the norm here. When in Rome... |
Well maybe it is the norm for married men....not so much for married women. 79 percent of married men but only 15.5 percent of married women in their 30s and 40s admitted adultery in South Korea.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2008/12/why-is-adultery/ |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:27 pm Post subject: Re: I had sex with my boss |
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| 79 percent of married men but only 15.5 percent of married women in their 30s and 40s admitted adultery in South Korea. |
Well of course, it's "cool" for men in KR (my buddies are always bragging about it, and showing me pictures). They specifically said it's a symbol of achievement to have sex with a hot married woman.
...not so cool to admit for women. |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: I had sex with my boss |
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| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| Sector7G wrote: |
| 79 percent of married men but only 15.5 percent of married women in their 30s and 40s admitted adultery in South Korea. |
Well of course, it's "cool" for men in KR (my buddies are always bragging about it, and showing me pictures). They specifically said it's a symbol of achievement to have sex with a hot married woman.
...not so cool to admit for women. |
Maybe so, but while 100% accuracy may be difficult to achieve, I think I will lean toward an anonymous online survey over your buddies who "are always bragging" any day of the week. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: I had sex with my boss |
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| ChrisPK wrote: |
| alongway wrote: |
That was more or less my point. Since they're separated it's a known issue. If they are in the middle of a divorce or living apart, permission to engage in sex with someone else is implied in those situations. |
That's not the point. Think about how many ESL teachers have gone through that hagwon, how many foreign cocks have gone through her. |
I'd say the same about most regional city foreign bars who have the same 5 Korean girls hanging out there for years on end plowing through many different foriegners. If you have any sense about you, don't do it and find other places to meet or pick up. Lol But, that's neither here nor now. As for some ajumma lovin' had a couple take me out for a test ride back in the day. Man were they good!  |
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wanderkind
Joined: 01 Jan 2012
Location: Japan
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyway I rarely see any attractive female EFL teachers in Korea. |
I'm pretty sure Korean men will dip their wick in anything foreign. |
What a couple of sweethearts.
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| I don't know the OP's age, but let's just say 25 or younger. He wrote that his boss is 15 years his senior. That puts her at 40 or late 30's. Many Korean women at that age have kept it tight. |
This. There are loads of great looking late 30s-middle aged Korean women out there.
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| Finally a hagwon owner is the one getting screwed. |
I'm shocked it took 4 pages for someone to say this. |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: I had sex with my boss |
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| Sector7G wrote: |
| Maybe so, but while 100% accuracy may be difficult to achieve, I think I will lean toward an anonymous online survey over your buddies who "are always bragging" any day of the week. |
Fair enough. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Ah, so that’s what you write for this crime, punishable by two years imprisonment (here in Korea…because you are in Korea now) but for ESL teachers who do drugs, you write… |
See above. Do you need a ladder to get off your high horse? |
You’ve clearly interpreted this quote out of context, but that’s what happens when you walk in the middle of a conversation and/or don’t bother reading everything.
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| cdninkorea wrote: |
| There is a certain logic to isitts's argument: If you're going to criticise people who break the law by using drugs on the grounds that you should follow the laws of the country you're in (regardless of whether such laws are just), then you should also be critical of those who break the law by having sex with a married woman. |
God this thread is ripe for the picking. |
So, pick, if you like. But cdninkorea is the only one who got what I was saying.
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| Both these laws are taken seriously (and can be seen as stupid) if you're caught. Korea is second only to your run of the mill ME country when it comes to punishment for adultery. There are definitely negative outcomes. |
What are the going to catch him for? |
This question has been answered, but your comment shows, again, that you’ve taken what I said out of context. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| You, most of Dave's, and most Westerners practice INTELLECTUAL DISPUTATION as your main verbal pastime. |
That’s the second time on this thread that you’ve tried to dissociate yourself from “Westerners” yet here you are, on a forum comprised of mostly Westerners, joining in intellectual arguments.
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What does this mean? Let us examine these two words using the dictionary while drinking our morning coffee...
* Intellectual -- developed or chiefly guided by the intellect rather than by emotion or experience
* Disputation -- an academic exercise in oral defense of a thesis by formal logic
The two words put together mean -- an academic debate of what exists, often ignoring experience, and based on "what ought to be" or other crap which exists only in the human mind. Yet what exists continues to exist! Better to just observe what exists and skip the intellectual debate. Koreans, perhaps because of Eastern philosophy, are quite good at avoiding academic argument.  |
So much for “I don’t do intellectual arguments.” Wow. Got your dictionary out and everything.
I never said you oughtn’t make hypocritical comments. I just pointed out that you did and wondered about it. It would be one thing if you just said that those people who got caught for drugs were idiots, but you really went to town on them. That they should be made an example of…wait, isn’t that intellectual? You made a comment on what ought to be?
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| I say lock them up for the full five years to make an example. |
Yes, you did. That statement exists. And continues to exist. So don’t blow that “intellectual argument” smoke in my face. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:09 pm Post subject: Re: I had sex with my boss |
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| Sector7G wrote: |
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Adultery is the norm here, taking drugs is not the norm here. When in Rome... |
Well maybe it is the norm for married men....not so much for married women. 79 percent of married men but only 15.5 percent of married women in their 30s and 40s admitted adultery in South Korea.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2008/12/why-is-adultery/ |
Considering 50% divorce rates over a life-time in many developed countries, this is hardly shocking. However, I've got to question the low % for women. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| You’ve clearly interpreted this quote out of context, but that’s what happens when you walk in the middle of a conversation and/or don’t bother reading everything. |
I read everything. The problem is you have no clue what you're talking about. You continually carried on about what the OP did being illegal, and it isn't illegal under Korean law. You then climbed on your high horse over someone supporting that, but you were way off the mark since this wasn't illegal.
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| So, pick, if you like. But cdninkorea is the only one who got what I was saying. |
Except what you were saying was a load of crap.
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| This question has been answered, but your comment shows, again, that you’ve taken what I said out of context. |
No it hasn't. He didn't do anything illegal, so what are they going to catch him for? Try answering that again with the realization that you were wrong and see if you come up with something different. |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:13 am Post subject: |
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| Two things that will bring out the argumentative side of some of these well-known posters are SEX and DRUGS. You can't get enough of this shit eh? |
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