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Samsung has too much money.

 
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:31 pm    Post subject: Samsung has too much money. Reply with quote

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-20/samsung-told-by-tax-man-to-use-apple-topping-cash-korea-markets.html

The President thinks they should start spending all that money they've piled up. Maybe this would be a good place to start.

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2014/08/21/0200000000AEN20140821007200315.html
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The aim is to create a virtuous cycle and recirculate corporate earnings back to households."

Interesting, and I think a good example of Korean government/business people seeing the big picture. In the US income inequality just gets bigger; the corporations investment their money (abroad) and it's poof gone. In KR the government is influencing the corporation to route those profits back to the citizens.

After all, if the people don't benefit from the existence of the corporation, what was the point of creating the corporation.
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actionjackson



Joined: 30 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
"The aim is to create a virtuous cycle and recirculate corporate earnings back to households."

Interesting, and I think a good example of Korean government/business people seeing the big picture. In the US income inequality just gets bigger; the corporations investment their money (abroad) and it's poof gone. In KR the government is influencing the corporation to route those profits back to the citizens.

After all, if the people don't benefit from the existence of the corporation, what was the point of creating the corporation.

To make money.
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting policy idea, if it works.

Corporations could try to hide the money overseas or could just decide it's better in the long run to pay the taxes. It would be great if they would invest some of the excess cash, but you need ideas about how and where to invest and as the fermented cabbage commando so eloquently put it on another thread, "This is Korea."

If the government really wanted to help "the people," they'd hire Marshall Sheriff Lucky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqHZWdFVyyQ
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KimchiNinja



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actionjackson wrote:
KimchiNinja wrote:
"The aim is to create a virtuous cycle and recirculate corporate earnings back to households."

Interesting, and I think a good example of Korean government/business people seeing the big picture. In the US income inequality just gets bigger; the corporations investment their money (abroad) and it's poof gone. In KR the government is influencing the corporation to route those profits back to the citizens.

After all, if the people don't benefit from the existence of the corporation, what was the point of creating the corporation.

To make money.


Obviously I know this, I point out that the money making machine serves no purpose if the profits don't benefit the bulk of the humans.
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KimchiNinja



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

atwood wrote:
It would be great if they would invest some of the excess cash, but you need ideas about how and where to invest and as the fermented cabbage commando so eloquently


Yeah.

In my experience Samsung does not have sophisticated financial investment capabilities, they only have one department that knows anything about this, and even that department has questionable expertise.

Seems like increasing salaries, bonuses to mgmt, investing in patents, and new technology would be a good move.
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wanderkind



Joined: 01 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious what sort of effect this will have on their stocks.

"GUYS, YOU'RE TOO FLY, LIKE SERIOUSLY IT'S GETTING RIDICULOUS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REGULATE YOU" is a convincing endorsement, but it's also saying their war chest is going to be downsized.

Edit:
Addressed somewhat in the article, but I meant more a few months down the road.
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KimchiNinja



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wanderkind wrote:
I'm curious what sort of effect this will have on their stocks.


Depends what they do with the money, if they declare a dividend in theory the stock price drops by the amount of the payout, and the investor's position isn't really altered. If they use the money elsewhere it depends how investors feel about that...
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liveinkorea316



Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samsung increasingly does its work off shore in factories is China, USA Indonesia and projects in the Middle East.

A more long term policy by the government would hsve been developing jobs at home which Hyundai and Samsung seem reluctant ti do without cheap overseas Labour and massive tsx breaks. Not helpful to ordinary Koreans.

This is why there is an employment problem in Korea ad money will not solve it because more department stores and restaurants is not real jobs. All the productive jobs have been going offshore for 10 years since Korea became too expensive.

Sparkling**
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happiness



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The power of Samsung and the companies that work with it will keep us NETS in jobs. No way will parents give up on their kids English studies esp when Samsung and the others are building more and more overseas. Its a perpetual wheel of study!

Bad for kids, good for business.
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

happiness wrote:
The power of Samsung and the companies that work with it will keep us NETS in jobs. No way will parents give up on their kids English studies esp when Samsung and the others are building more and more overseas. Its a perpetual wheel of study!

Bad for kids, good for business.

What's so bad about an opportunity to escape the "hell that is the Korea"?
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happiness



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea isnt hell at all man. Some people here need a bitchslap (and to be right, so do some of us), bur Korea is a good place to hang, live, visit.
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atwood



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

happiness wrote:
Korea isnt hell at all man. Some people here need a bitchslap (and to be right, so do some of us), bur Korea is a good place to hang, live, visit.

You just contradicted your previous post. Seems like someone should slap some sense into you. Very Happy
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