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BigBuds
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon
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| I think I'll have a steak for dinner tonight. |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| Most people love to eat beef. Always have, always will. Tree huggers can opt out, more for us. |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:56 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| Not all cattle farming is equal. Clear-cutting rain forest acres to feed cattle is foolish. Limited grazing in pre-existing pastures or wild land instead of converting it to farmland or human living space has far less of an environmental impact, and results in fewer total animal deaths as well. Discouraging people from eating beef is somewhere between unreasonable and pointless; even if you brainwashed the entire first world into thinking beef consumption was unacceptable, a spike in third world demand -- the part of the world where the population's still on a serious rise, and probably the part of the world which cares least about the environment -- would make up for it soon enough. Instead, the first world should use its economic clout to ensure that beef production is less of an environmental liability. With a little will, it wouldn't be hard. |
Fox on the scene!
These short-sighted ideas of "lets stop homo sapiens from eating meat" have endless issues. 1) The population WANTS to eat meat, instinct tells them they should. 2) The population keeps growing and meat eating goes up even if per capita goes down. 3) The growing population destroys the environment even if they don't do it with animal husbandry. 4) More importantly for homo's future, we have suffered a 10% decline in cranial capacity over the last 10K years, and cranial capacity has a .4 correlation with intelligence. Meat eating is our best theory on how we developed these brains, playing with that is seriously risky (see point #1 earlier). 5) When you decrease meat as a % of the pie, you increase processed grains/sugar, which just furthers the metabolic syndrome epidemic. Why would you remove what little real food there is from the diet?
Wiser to decrease population slowly over time using positive/negative incentives, while increasing meat consumption, and decreasing industrial revolution food consumption. Net impact = a win for human health and the environment. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:10 am Post subject: |
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Two inescapable facts can be drawn.
1) People love beef
2)Despite all of the years of political lies and nonsense, Koreans love American beef. |
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Sesame
Joined: 16 Mar 2014
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:38 am Post subject: Re: E-Mart's recent US beef promotion a success |
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| Sister Ray wrote: |
| Stupid. Should be discouraging all beef consumption. Cattle farming is a global environmental blight and certainly does not need to be encouraged. |
LOL you stupid wussy. Probably a liberal voting moron as well |
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Enduro
Joined: 26 Apr 2014
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:04 am Post subject: Re: E-Mart's recent US beef promotion a success |
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| Sesame wrote: |
| Sister Ray wrote: |
| Stupid. Should be discouraging all beef consumption. Cattle farming is a global environmental blight and certainly does not need to be encouraged. |
LOL you stupid wussy. Probably a liberal voting moron as well |
Probably against private gun ownership as well |
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lithium
Joined: 18 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:24 am Post subject: Re: E-Mart's recent US beef promotion a success |
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| Enduro wrote: |
| Sister Ray wrote: |
| Stupid. Should be discouraging all beef consumption. Cattle farming is a global environmental blight and certainly does not need to be encouraged. |
LOL!!! Stupid hippy |
^^^ This! |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:38 am Post subject: |
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The solution to getting people to eat less beef is the same solution as to getting people to drive more fuel efficient cars- increase the cost of consumption.
In theory, inflated taxation would do it, but this would never happen. Maybe a genetically engineered virus released by "terrorists"?
Given that the most successful effort to date in increasing fuel efficiency has been W's Iraq War, if we want to increase cattle prices and get people seriously considering alternatives, we should instigate regime change policies in Australia and Argentina, destabilizing the cattle producing areas and driving up prices.
It's a sick sad truth of the world that W. Bush did more (inadvertently) to get the average American to take actual action over fuel prices than Al Gore ever did.
So my question to the anti-cattle crowd is do we want a noble, but ineffective policy regarding reduction in beef consumption, or do we want a cynical one that seeks to manipulate people into doing this? After all, the health of the planet is at stake.
(of course this is over the top, but I'm curious as to how far people are willing to go and wondering if they are willing to consider grey or even black means to achieve their aim) |
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Sister Ray
Joined: 25 Mar 2006
Location: Fukuoka
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:41 am Post subject: Re: E-Mart's recent US beef promotion a success |
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| Sesame wrote: |
| Sister Ray wrote: |
| Stupid. Should be discouraging all beef consumption. Cattle farming is a global environmental blight and certainly does not need to be encouraged. |
LOL you stupid wussy. Probably a liberal voting moron as well |
What's with the aggression and need for insults from those who disagree with me? This has been a constant theme from you guys. I'm going to go back to my original assertion that your hostility comes from the uncomfortable realisation that your chosen lifestyle has a significant detrimental effect on the planet and the other species who inhabit it.
Really, you guys need to grow up, let go of the anger and engage with the World in a rational way. Don't lash out with insults at opinions at variance with your own and accept a plurality of viewpoints even if you disagree with them. |
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Squire
Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:08 am Post subject: |
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Just wait until Argentina next try to take the Falklands. I imagine glassing Buenos Aires will drive the price of beef up
edit: By the way I'd love to know why Emart's beef is so much more expensive than Jinmart's. Their pork too, and it's lower quality. |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: E-Mart's recent US beef promotion a success |
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| Sister Ray wrote: |
| What's with the aggression and need for insults from those who disagree with me? |
It's instinct. Humans don't like being told to stop eating meat, or to stop breeding. They attack and kill the threat to their survival.
But seriously, the answer to this and every other problem is population control. A discussion of which humans keep avoiding, for the above reason... |
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yodanole
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: La Florida
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| I have a constructive suggestion. Stop eating beef. Start eating vegetarians. Do some real good. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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I've heard those E-Mart stores mentioned in the article are local wholesale outfits, so they're probably selling U.S. beef to restaurants and maybe some butchers, not directly to the Korean beefeater.
Sorry to derail the derail. Please feel free to continue arguing over whether we should nuke the gay whales. |
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neilio
Joined: 12 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:02 pm Post subject: Re: E-Mart's recent US beef promotion a success |
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| Sister Ray wrote: |
| Sesame wrote: |
| Sister Ray wrote: |
| Stupid. Should be discouraging all beef consumption. Cattle farming is a global environmental blight and certainly does not need to be encouraged. |
LOL you stupid wussy. Probably a liberal voting moron as well |
What's with the aggression and need for insults from those who disagree with me? This has been a constant theme from you guys. I'm going to go back to my original assertion that your hostility comes from the uncomfortable realisation that your chosen lifestyle has a significant detrimental effect on the planet and the other species who inhabit it.
Really, you guys need to grow up, let go of the anger and engage with the World in a rational way. Don't lash out with insults at opinions at variance with your own and accept a plurality of viewpoints even if you disagree with them. |
Sister Ray, what's your alternative? Are you vegetarian? Against harming of animals? Beef? Men? What should we be doing to feed the billions? |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
I've heard those E-Mart stores mentioned in the article are local wholesale outfits, so they're probably selling U.S. beef to restaurants and maybe some butchers, not directly to the Korean beefeater.
Sorry to derail the derail. |
That's on topic.
The woman and I were going to check out E-Mart this weekend and see about this US beef...just to piss off the silly hippies.
But maybe there is nothing for us there? Currently I eat Hanaro steak, it's about 80K won per kg. Price seems excessive, but it's pretty good. That HSM AU crap is too chewy for my taste. |
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