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Nanbu
Joined: 26 Jan 2012
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 Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:26 am Post subject: Questions/advice regarding working/studying in Australia |
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Hello. I have a Korean friend who would like to go to Australia in 2-4 years, but he does not know how to go about it, so I thought I could ask for some advice in the forums. He is currently working as a crossfit instructor here in Korea.
He's been working as an instructor for almost a year and he is starting to learn the English language now. The reason he wants to go to Australia is to learn more about crossfit and "box tour" (박스투어 - I have no idea what this is) and improve his English while being there.
Does anyone have any advice? Any ideas on how the visa system works for Korean nationals? If you need any more information about him, let me know. Any information is appreciated.
I will be asking to different crossfit sites in Australia to see if they can provide some information as well. |
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aq8knyus
Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Questions/advice regarding working/studying in Australia |
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| Nanbu wrote: |
Hello. I have a Korean friend who would like to go to Australia in 2-4 years, but he does not know how to go about it, so I thought I could ask for some advice in the forums. He is currently working as a crossfit instructor here in Korea.
He's been working as an instructor for almost a year and he is starting to learn the English language now. The reason he wants to go to Australia is to learn more about crossfit and "box tour" (박스투어 - I have no idea what this is) and improve his English while being there.
Does anyone have any advice? Any ideas on how the visa system works for Korean nationals? If you need any more information about him, let me know. Any information is appreciated.
I will be asking to different crossfit sites in Australia to see if they can provide some information as well. |
http://www.australia.com/ko/plan/before-you-go/working-holiday-visa-faq.aspx |
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wanderkind
Joined: 01 Jan 2012
Location: Japan
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: Questions/advice regarding working/studying in Australia |
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| Nanbu wrote: |
......He's been working as an instructor for almost a year and he is starting to learn the English language now. The reason he wants to go to Australia is to learn more about crossfit and "box tour" (박스투어 - I have no idea what this is) and improve his English while being there.
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Cross-fit specific jargon is one of the aspects that makes it so cultish. A crossfit gym is referred to as a 'box'. Your friend wants to learn more about crossfit by traveling around and seeing how they do things at different gyms. Sounds like a cool vacation actually, but unless he plans to spend 1 month+ at each place, probably a tourist visa makes more sense than a working holiday. Not sure where the work could be picked up if he's constantly mobile.
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| He will either work picking fruit/vegetables at a farm in rural oz, or at a factory/meatpacking place, or for a restaurant/business owned by a Korean. The pay for the first two will be relatively good, the pay for the third will be under the table and while not as good better than the job would pay in Korea. The cost of living will be very high. There will be plenty of Koreans there to help with the transition, and there are some Korean classified websites that he can use, but I forget what they are, or there is gumtree with English classifieds. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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These working holiday programs are a scam. They are basically one-way flows of Koreans to Western countries. They should be stopped.
"Last year, nearly 4,000 Koreans explored Canada on the work and travel visa to learn English and pay their way there. The Korean government would like to double or triple that. In contrast, only 20 Canadians came here under the same program."
“Most Canadians are [in Korea] as English teachers but they can't do it under the working holiday program. I think it is discrimination… (in that) Koreans can do almost anything in Canada under the working holiday program,” David Chatterson, Canadian ambassador to Korea, told The Korea Times.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/06/116_114026.html
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Is there any agreement Korea has with Western countries which isn't lopsided? |
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aq8knyus
Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
These working holiday programs are a scam. They are basically one-way flows of Koreans to Western countries. They should be stopped.
"Last year, nearly 4,000 Koreans explored Canada on the work and travel visa to learn English and pay their way there. The Korean government would like to double or triple that. In contrast, only 20 Canadians came here under the same program."
“Most Canadians are [in Korea] as English teachers but they can't do it under the working holiday program. I think it is discrimination… (in that) Koreans can do almost anything in Canada under the working holiday program,” David Chatterson, Canadian ambassador to Korea, told The Korea Times.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/06/116_114026.html
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Is there any agreement Korea has with Western countries which isn't lopsided? |
The UK has a similar lopsided visa arrangement, Koreans can staty in the UK for 2 years whilst it is only 1 year for UK citizens. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
These working holiday programs are a scam. They are basically one-way flows of Koreans to Western countries. They should be stopped.
"Last year, nearly 4,000 Koreans explored Canada on the work and travel visa to learn English and pay their way there. The Korean government would like to double or triple that. In contrast, only 20 Canadians came here under the same program."
“Most Canadians are [in Korea] as English teachers but they can't do it under the working holiday program. I think it is discrimination… (in that) Koreans can do almost anything in Canada under the working holiday program,” David Chatterson, Canadian ambassador to Korea, told The Korea Times.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/06/116_114026.html
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Then I say stop issuing Koreans working holiday visas, or issue the same number as Korea does. Ideally they'd get the US, Australia, New Zealand, and the UK on board to only issue the same number of working-holiday visas as Koreans to them. That just might open up Korea's visa system a little.
I do understand not wanting working-holiday visas working in public schools. But I don't see an issue if they work in private hagwons. If a parent feels the NET isn't up to standard, they can always switch.
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Is there any agreement Korea has with Western countries which isn't lopsided? |
Traditionally, and many still, tourist visas have been lopsided with lots of 'undeveloped' countries with developed countries. Until 2005-ish Americans were able to get tourist visas at the port-of-entry. However Koreans had to get interviewed at the US embassy and issued visa before they were allowed on that US-bound plane.
Some FTA's possibly. But labor groups always think they're being ripped off. |
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