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Lucas
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Sesame
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"Sometimes the differing perceptions of dogs become a source of family tension. Kim Dongyoung, 30, said she gets into fierce arguments with her grandfather over her lap dog.
'Whenever he saw my dog at home, he would say it's the size of one bowl of hot soup,' Kim said."
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byrddogs
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Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:35 am Post subject: |
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Didn't read the link. I remember back in the late 2000s when the gov. was going to do their 'crackdown' on the nearly 300 or so known doggie meat establishments in Seoul. It got some minor news play and then faded away shortly afterwards.
Did it take 6 years to finally get to the oldest offender? |
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LPKSA
Joined: 24 Feb 2014
Location: Saudi Arabia
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| Dogs belong at our side, on the floor at our feet, for some, in or at the foot of the bed while we rest, or in the back yard running freely. I don't care what country it is. They don't belong in a bowl. |
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Cave Dweller
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Location: Seoul
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Do you eat pigs, chickens, and cows
If you do, that makes you a hypocrite.
| LPKSA wrote: |
| Dogs belong at our side, on the floor at our feet, for some, in or at the foot of the bed while we rest, or in the back yard running freely. I don't care what country it is. They don't belong in a bowl. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Cave Dweller wrote: |
Do you eat pigs, chickens, and cows
If you do, that makes you a hypocrite. |
Devil's advocate: pigs, chickens and cows were all domesticated to be eaten / milked / have their eggs stolen, whereas dogs were domesticated more as guards and hunting companions, cats as vermin killers. The latter two were sometimes eaten but were never domesticated in the first place as a great source of meat.
If you're walking through a place like Afghanistan in 2006 by yourself you're going to want a big dog like this; using it as meat is a waste and will probably end up in you dying earlier. And when you're storing grain you want a cat to kill the mice, not for a quick meal. Early man made the same decision.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/06/10/books/11bissell.2.500.jpg
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/11/books/review/11cover_bissel.html |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
| Cave Dweller wrote: |
Do you eat pigs, chickens, and cows
If you do, that makes you a hypocrite. |
Devil's advocate: pigs, chickens and cows were all domesticated to be eaten / milked / have their eggs stolen, whereas dogs were domesticated more as guards and hunting companions, cats as vermin killers. |
That's true.
Dog domestication starts somewhere between 15-30K years ago. They have been bred to function as tools and entertainment, but can be eaten if meat is scarce. It's a double win. |
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jvalmer
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| Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Essentially a poor man's meat. |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
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| Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| Essentially a poor man's meat. |
Basically. I've never been so desperate for meat that I had to eat my dog.
Yet appa tries to get me to do it, not against it, just don't see the point... |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| Essentially a poor man's meat. |
Kind of like haggis. |
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Weigookin74
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| mithridates wrote: |
| Cave Dweller wrote: |
Do you eat pigs, chickens, and cows
If you do, that makes you a hypocrite. |
Devil's advocate: pigs, chickens and cows were all domesticated to be eaten / milked / have their eggs stolen, whereas dogs were domesticated more as guards and hunting companions, cats as vermin killers. The latter two were sometimes eaten but were never domesticated in the first place as a great source of meat.
If you're walking through a place like Afghanistan in 2006 by yourself you're going to want a big dog like this; using it as meat is a waste and will probably end up in you dying earlier. And when you're storing grain you want a cat to kill the mice, not for a quick meal. Early man made the same decision.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/06/10/books/11bissell.2.500.jpg
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/11/books/review/11cover_bissel.html |
When you're startving, you prob eat anything and then later develop a taste for it. Korea, China, etc use to be pretty poor up until recently. Old folks here love this $h!t. Young folks not so much. It'll die out soon enough. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Cave Dweller wrote: |
Do you eat pigs, chickens, and cows
If you do, that makes you a hypocrite. |
I'm a vegetarian and I disagree with your assertion. For one thing, there's no myth floating around that beating the daylights out of the pig will improve the diner's stamina. There are a quite a few differences between eating farm animals and eating dog. |
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Mr. BlackCat
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
When you're startving, you prob eat anything and then later develop a taste for it. Korea, China, etc use to be pretty poor up until recently. Old folks here love this $h!t. Young folks not so much. It'll die out soon enough. |
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your general assertion, but I am getting really weary of this blanket excuse for everything Korea does being that they were recently poor. There were tons of countries that were recently poor, and probably even more that are currently poor. Yet we don't see them do the same things as Korea. I don't just mean to apply this to this conversation, but to all the other quirks of this country and its citizens that constantly get swept under the "recently poor" rug. I just think it's sufficient to say Korea has its own way of doing things, and then try maybe have some aimless conversations about it here. I think the country being recently poor is a contributing factor in many of the ways they do things here, but seeing that so many other countries that were or are in the same situation do things so differently, I don't think we can just leave it at that.
For example, Thailand is still poor (not as oppressively poor, but still). They don't eat dog. Yet they eat cockroaches and other bugs as a treat. Korea doesn't besides bundaeggi. So obviously a lot more goes into it than poverty. It's clear that Koreans, men in particular, have this obsession with virility. That's an interesting discussion, maybe, when talking about eating dog vs other countries. It's also clear that Koreans don't have the same historical relationship with dogs that other countries do, not just in the West. That's something to talk about. Like I said, poverty is just the tip of the iceberg. |
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Mr. BlackCat
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
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| Anyway, on topic. There's a rather large boshintag (sp?) restaurant on the main road near my place right near the subway in Seoul. It's got big neon lights proclaiming itself and is usually busy enough in the evening and weekends, mostly with older men. I've seen boshintag restaurants before, but not so flashy and in a busy area. It's not quite as underground as I thought, that's for sure. |
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jazzmaster
Joined: 30 Sep 2013
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| Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:04 am Post subject: |
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| catman wrote: |
| jvalmer wrote: |
| Essentially a poor man's meat. |
Kind of like haggis. |
Haggis is based on using the less desirable parts of a desirable animal in order to minimize waste and maximize the amount of meals obtainable from one animal.
Eating a dog is desperation at not having a desirable animal and therefore eating the only animal you can find.
The current day hotdog is kind of like haggis.
I can't think of a current day example similar to eating a dog. |
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