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NinjaTeacher
Joined: 31 Jan 2014
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OP, this is a pretty common thing in clubs.
Security like to flex their muscles at these places and often single out foreigners.
Best thing to do is chat to promoters, don't get drunk and slobby and avoid altercations. Of course things happen like in your case but not on a nightly basis. |
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r2b2ct
Joined: 14 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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The story seems believable to me. I have seen similar things. I also don't see why it matters how long he waited outside.
Most likely he was targeted due to being a foreigner/black and they were looking for an excuse to kick him out. Nothing new here. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| r2b2ct wrote: |
The story seems believable to me. I have seen similar things. I also don't see why it matters how long he waited outside.
Most likely he was targeted due to being a foreigner/black and they were looking for an excuse to kick him out. Nothing new here. |
Aside from the part where the OP apparently can't remember the next 3 hours clearly, or for that matter whether it was 3 or 5, and never stated whether she went with friends or went with the guy alone. Also its not exactly clear if they ever met again that night.
It's also odd how the guy manages to get kicked out when she happens to go to the bathroom and then how despite waiting 3 hours, he isn't there when she finally stumbles out of the club. If you wait 3 hours, whats another 20 minutes or whatever it would have taken to meet up?You usually would wait an hour tops or till she came out.
How much the OP had had to drink before and during the club and if she went with friends or not are going to have huge ramifications on how one perceives this story and we haven't really gotten clear answers on this. Some answers might make her story more credible, some might make alternative explanations more likely. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| The pizzas and/or cheese might be prefabricated and come from a food supplier and thus you cannot separate the gorgonzola. |
Possibly the case, but A) they're still charging more for a gorgonzola than a cheese if you order off the menu, so this doesn't really hold water and B) if you're charing 12,000-15,000 for a prefab pizza, you're ripping me off (not impossible). |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| So, how does one ban a nightclub? |
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wanderkind
Joined: 01 Jan 2012
Location: Japan
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe you'll clarify this, but there's uhm, some inconsistencies in your story that kind of need to be noted. Shit, it's the fuzz!
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| Well, we went to Octogan and I remember the first 10 minutes were pretty plan and clear. |
So how come you don't remember the subsequent 3-5 hours clearly?
Because alcohol is a thing. But I'm pretty sure that's not even what she was saying, I think "plan (sic; read: plain) and clear" was meant to convey it was normal or routine. The phrase was inappropriate, but contextually, "nothing happened in the first 10 minutes" was the gist.
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| Apparently, the white guys who were with the vomiter see that he's been victimized because of them |
So the white guys happened to be standing outside the club too? Unless they've changed their entrance and smoking policy since last time I was there, no one really chills outside Octagon. They hadn't moved on from getting kicked out or weren't inside clubbin? The black guy was mistaken for being with the white guys, they were all kicked out at the same time-ish. Seriously SR, find something more productive to do with your time!
Or was it just the two of you? In which case he either A)Found you unattractive/drunk/clingy/the club boring and decided to ditch you B)Hooked up with some other girl real quick and left. And if you were alone, wouldn't you have left like 30 minutes into the search to go charge your phone? Yes obviously, those are more likely than the scenario OP described.
Strange that he just happens to go missing while you're having a bathroom break (No it's not. It would have been strange if he went missing while she was looking right at him.) and apparently stops waiting outside the club right before you leave the club to go charge your phone and get the messages as apparently those messages were your first contact.
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talk about missing the forest for the trees. This. |
The amount the OP is getting shit on here is completely uncalled for. I know it's Monday but FFS.
OP, that's too bad, and the bar-leaning thing may have been racist, but a foreigner getting kicked out because they mistakenly think he's with another group isn't that unusual. Not letting him back in because of leaning on the bar, that's probably just security not wanting to admit they were wrong. There were probably racial aspects to the interactions, but as scenarios go, this was pretty tame.
I don't see how they could "make him wait outside". They could only bar him from entry, not leaving the immediate area, correct? I wouldn't say your friend was 'a total beta', but he does need to be a little more decisive. Waiting that long is just silly, and on him, not the establishment.
Take a mulligan after your friend's midterms, go out again, somewhere else, cheaper, and stay away from puking people!
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Octagon isn't a Korean club.
Puking is de rigeur, but not in central water features. |
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rainman3277
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| What a bizarre story. He waited outside for you for 5 hours? Are either of you retarded? Why wouldn't there be cell phone contact? You are strange people. |
Now that I think about it...it was only 3 hours. |
This is the incorrect usage of the word ONLY. Correct, would be " I ONLY knew the guy for 3 hours so he didn't know I was the kind of person who begged polite friends to come to a club, and then paid them no mind for 3 hours". |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:10 am Post subject: |
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| (No it's not. It would have been strange if he went missing while she was looking right at him.) |
So you don't think it was possible he ditched her and just made up some story?
I'm not saying that's what happened. There's still a good chance that what she said happened, DID happen. But the whole "I don't remember what happened for 3-5 hours", not trying to find the guy or go charge her phone, and its unclear whether she was with any friends or not, really raises some questions and makes one question whether we are getting the whole picture.
All we need to know is how much she had to drink before she entered the club and if she was drunk while there, and did she bring friends or not. Based on those answers and the other facts what happened will become pretty clear.
Let's just say that a dude who has no interest in that girl or any girls there, suddenly disappearing and making up some story as to why, is not some rare occurrence. To be fair, neither is racism from Korean clubs. But before I declare Octagon racist and randomly kicking out black people (given that I've been there before and plenty of black people there), I'm going to want some more info.
Have you ever been to Octagon? |
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wanderkind
Joined: 01 Jan 2012
Location: Japan
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Have you ever been to Octagon? |
I have not. But I've been to a number of analogous Gangnam clubs.
She said her piece, it seemed like it wasn't necessarily total BS from the club, just wrong place wrong time, and unfortunate choices.
It doesn't really warrant the nth degree interrogation or mud slinging. |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Are there still clubs that ban USAF? |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Are there still clubs that ban USAF? |
Does the USAF still "ban" certain clubs?  |
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wanderkind
Joined: 01 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, there are a number of clubs that prohibit US service members. |
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guavashake
Joined: 09 Nov 2013
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| Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:15 am Post subject: |
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| OP POSTING IN CAPS... MAD RATCHET WITH TROPHY BRO |
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lithium
Joined: 18 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:45 am Post subject: |
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| duhweecher wrote: |
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| Nothing in what you described seems racist. |
Profiling is (usually) considered racist. |
Perhaps you're racist for leaving your black friend outside while you partied with the whites and Koreans....just sayin'. |
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