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Lucas
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aq8knyus wrote:
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jodie1903 wrote:
Is it really that difficult for a British male teacher to find a job in Korea?.
Nowadays, yes.
There are still a fair number of british guys in Korea but we mostly got our jobs and contacts sorted years ago.
Not true. The number of Brits in Korea is increasing.
He is right.
The number of British E2 visa holders has always remained quite steady, but since 2008 there has been a definite increase.
As before, that's really interesting, but may I ask how you know? |
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jodie1903
Joined: 15 May 2014
Location: United Kingdom
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| Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:22 am Post subject: |
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It's just the feedback i've been getting back from recruiters, the schools want to hire north americans.
I feel some recruiters filter my application without sending it to the school because of that reason. I have had interviews when applying directly to the school, but didn't get hired.
That been said, i have been concentrating on looking for work in Busan, so that makes it more difficult. |
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aq8knyus
Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London
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| Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| Tigermoth wrote: |
| aq8knyus wrote: |
| Lucas wrote: |
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jodie1903 wrote:
Is it really that difficult for a British male teacher to find a job in Korea?.
Nowadays, yes.
There are still a fair number of british guys in Korea but we mostly got our jobs and contacts sorted years ago. |
Not true. The number of Brits in Korea is increasing. |
He is right.
The number of British E2 visa holders has always remained quite steady, but since 2008 there has been a definite increase. |
As before, that's really interesting, but may I ask how you know? |
Immigration statistics are published every month by the KIS.
You can go to their website and get their monthly and yearly reports. Admittedly the last time I checked was 2012, but I think there are like 500 more UK E2 visa holders in Korea than there were in 2008. |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| aq8knyus wrote: |
| You can go to their website and get their monthly and yearly reports. Admittedly the last time I checked was 2012, but I think there are like 500 more UK E2 visa holders in Korea than there were in 2008. |
Between 2008 and 2012 the total number of E2 holders increased nationwide, so its hardly surprising that brits increased by a tiny fraction along with them. The % of UK E2 holders is still miniscule however.
In any case the OP is talking about 2014 not 2012. Two years can make a difference. |
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aq8knyus
Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:04 am Post subject: |
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| Chaparrastique wrote: |
| aq8knyus wrote: |
| You can go to their website and get their monthly and yearly reports. Admittedly the last time I checked was 2012, but I think there are like 500 more UK E2 visa holders in Korea than there were in 2008. |
Between 2008 and 2012 the total number of E2 holders increased nationwide, so its hardly surprising that brits increased by a tiny fraction along with them. The % of UK E2 holders is still miniscule however.
In any case the OP is talking about 2014 not 2012. Two years can make a difference. |
2014 won't be released until after December, but I am pretty confident that it will show a larger number than 2008 and 2012.
You are right though that UK E2s are very much in the minority and even in 2012 they were only just over 2000.
Although I don't think it is because the jobs are not open to Brits, it is just a fact that teaching in Korea is a different thing for Brits than it is for Americans and Canadians.
We don't have the same student loan repayment pressures as our payments are proportionate to what we earn. We also do not get pension money back and the exchange rate means that Korean won doesn't really go as far in the UK.
Obviously low tax, cheap cost of living and no rent means you can save more than you could in a regular low paying job in the UK. However, a bog standard teaching job in Korea pays very little when calculated into pound sterling.
For Brits, going abroad to teach is more about wanderlust and leaving the grey little island for a few years. As such Korea just isn't high up on the list and with very little financial incentive it is no wonder. |
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candy bar
Joined: 03 Dec 2012
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| A recruiter told me that one of the reasons North Americans are preferred over Brits is because North Americans are easier to understand during the phone interview. |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| A recruiter told me that one of the reasons North Americans are preferred over Brits is because North Americans are easier to understand during the phone interview. |
Very true. UK has too many unintelligible regional accents and slang. All those geordies, cumbrians, mancs and liverpudlians need elocution lessons.
They need to understand that there is now an international standard of speaking a pronunciation and that just speaking as you do in the pub isn't good enough. |
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ChrisPK
Joined: 07 Aug 2014
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| Chaparrastique wrote: |
| candy bar wrote: |
| A recruiter told me that one of the reasons North Americans are preferred over Brits is because North Americans are easier to understand during the phone interview. |
Very true. UK has too many unintelligible regional accents and slang. All those geordies, cumbrians, mancs and liverpudlians need elocution lessons.
They need to understand that there is now an international standard of speaking a pronunciation and that just speaking as you do in the pub isn't good enough. |
No need to learn to speak with an American accent. An RP or BBC English accent is just fine. Many uni graduates in the UK don't speak with a regional accent. Even if they do, they can switch to BBC English with ease, just as many American southerners do to Standard American English here in Korea. |
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Wanderluster2
Joined: 18 Sep 2014
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| Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:25 am Post subject: |
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| I'm a Britsh person who has just been offered a job after under 2 months of searching. I am mixed race which I was told by one employer was a problem because schools only want Caucasian teachers. This recruiter also told me that schools prefer American teachers to British ones. |
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thurst
Joined: 08 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:31 am Post subject: |
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| Your job search in Korea is never going to be as easy as it would be for a white, Canadian/American female, but Brits are definitely not discriminated against in the job hunt and there are a sizable number of schools that prefer and/or only hire British teachers. |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| Brits are definitely not discriminated against in the job hunt and there are a sizable number of schools that prefer and/or only hire British teachers. |
Most if not all schools in Korea prefer North Americans.
This is not the Japan forum. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| candy bar wrote: |
| A recruiter told me that one of the reasons North Americans are preferred over Brits is because North Americans are easier to understand during the phone interview. |
...and because we know what 'football' really is? Speaking of which teams are doing well in the CFL or NFL this season? (I've gottten so out of touch with things back home.  ) |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Naw just razzing you guys. Brits, Kiwis, Ausies, SAfers have always had a tough time. But work anyplace your first year, don't be fussy, get some experience, and then you can have an easier time finding work. All the English speakers do eventually land on their feet. |
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watergirl
Joined: 01 Jul 2008
Location: Ansan, south korea
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
Actually, I think it's just harder for people outside of Korea to get jobs nowadays, and also, for men.
And, recruiters are prob. the worst part of the employment process, and will just screen out people for things like race, country, etc, whereas employers will be more open to personality, although I swear I do see teachers w/ similar appearances at some academies. lol
And, my school for ex, seemed to prefer Irish and American, and not American.
Have you seen directors who put their ads directly?
So, may to now is quite a long time to be looking. You might want to consider looking outside of Busan, actually Seoul's 'suburbs' I feel are much better places to work.. (Busan, is nicer than Seoul I think though)
REally, need to consider changing something though. |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| watergirl wrote: |
Actually, I think it's just harder for people outside of Korea to get jobs nowadays, and also, for men.
And, recruiters are prob. the worst part of the employment process, and will just screen out people for things like race, country, etc, |
basically every prejudice imaginable is let run riot when an ajosshi gets to choose an employee.
First world infrastructure, stone age mentality. |
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