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Improving manners of Koreans
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
I have to second the point that plenty of homes back home were "no shoes". Like I said, in my parents house and some of our neighbors or friends in the city, people left their shoes on. Plenty others people took their shoes off. It was really hit or miss. GENERALLY the wealthier the family, the more likely you were to take off your shoes, but this was not writ in stone.

But dude, you earlier posted they just scraped their boots off and walked right on in.

Which is it?

I also see we can add socks specialist to beverage consigliere in your long list of consultancies.
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le-paul



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats this now - manners no shoes?

If someone requires you or not to remove your shoes, you respect their request - that's the manners part (eg a walk in restaurant).

Koreans dont have 'better manners' because they take their shoes off. Rolling Eyes
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave's people rationalize away, until they hit -- "our manners are superior". Great work guys!
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joelove



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you look at the title of this thread you have to wonder a little bit, what does it mean? You cannot change the behavior of others except maybe a tad in the ones you know.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joelove wrote:
When you look at the title of this thread you have to wonder a little bit, what does it mean? You cannot change the behavior of others except maybe a tad in the ones you know.


It means "they should become like us, because we are right". Wink

Perhaps Koreans will read this forum and come to their senses?
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
joelove wrote:
When you look at the title of this thread you have to wonder a little bit, what does it mean? You cannot change the behavior of others except maybe a tad in the ones you know.


It means "they should become like us, because we are right". Wink

Perhaps Koreans will read this forum and come to their senses?

Based on objective observation, highly unlikely. Very Happy
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
cj1976 wrote:
A grown man shouldn't have to do that.


Well, grown hominids have been sitting on ground for a couple million years, and grown men have been doing it for 200K years. We can use chairs now if we like...but some cultures still follow their traditions.


Chairs were made because people realised how much sitting on the floor socks - unless you are a 5 year old playing with your toys. It's just not right for an adult.
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Chaparrastique



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj1976 wrote:
Chairs were made because people realised how much sitting on the floor socks - unless you are a 5 year old playing with your toys. It's just not right for an adult.


Chairs date from the ancient Sumerian civilisation.

Koreans never needed them though because due to a unique anatomical difference they are able to kneel or squat for long periods.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if kneeling/squatting isn't more healthy though, sitting in chairs all day is a "new" (relatively) invention, maybe not that great.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

atwood wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
I have to second the point that plenty of homes back home were "no shoes". Like I said, in my parents house and some of our neighbors or friends in the city, people left their shoes on. Plenty others people took their shoes off. It was really hit or miss. GENERALLY the wealthier the family, the more likely you were to take off your shoes, but this was not writ in stone.

But dude, you earlier posted they just scraped their boots off and walked right on in.

Which is it?

I also see we can add socks specialist to beverage consigliere in your long list of consultancies.


atwood, lots of people back home didnt take off their shoes. Lots of other people did. Both statements can be true. Are you too stupid to grasp that concept?
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
I wonder if kneeling/squatting isn't more healthy though, sitting in chairs all day is a "new" (relatively) invention, maybe not that great.

If the many TV commercials touting products for knee pain are any indication, squatting may not be that great.

Jumping to the conclusion that something is unhealthy just because it's "new" might be rough on the knees as well. Very Happy
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
atwood wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
I have to second the point that plenty of homes back home were "no shoes". Like I said, in my parents house and some of our neighbors or friends in the city, people left their shoes on. Plenty others people took their shoes off. It was really hit or miss. GENERALLY the wealthier the family, the more likely you were to take off your shoes, but this was not writ in stone.

But dude, you earlier posted they just scraped their boots off and walked right on in.

Which is it?

I also see we can add socks specialist to beverage consigliere in your long list of consultancies.


atwood, lots of people back home didnt take off their shoes. Lots of other people did. Both statements can be true. Are you too stupid to grasp that concept?

Sorry , I misread your post. The first sentence refers to "no shoes" homes and when I saw the second sentence was an example, I automatically thought it would support the first sentence, not contradict it.

You fooled me. Very Happy

As for the some on and some off concept, I already posted pretty much the same thing. As for the socks, I stand by my comment.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

atwood wrote:

Jumping to the conclusion that something is unhealthy just because it's new...


Perhaps you have heard about evolution; animals are adapted to old things, not new things, that's how time works. It doesn't necessarily mean that the new thing is unhealthy though...

...obviously we aren't all idiots Atwood. Please stop projecting on us. Idea


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KimchiNinja



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
atwood, are you too stupid to grasp that concept?


I wonder this often.
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
atwood wrote:

Jumping to the conclusion that something is unhealthy just because it's new...


Perhaps you have heard about evolution; animals are adapted to old things, not new things, that's how time works. It doesn't necessarily mean that the new thing is unhealthy though...

...obviously we aren't all idiots Atwood. Please stop projecting on us. Idea

So you're agreeing with me that you were jumping to a conclusion and then trying to be funny to cover up your mistake.













Ha! Ha! ( I almost forgot to laugh.)
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