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Sireno
Joined: 19 Mar 2010
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 Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:07 pm Post subject: E2 Visa Part Time Possible? |
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| Hello. I am currently in Korea with an E2 visa that will expire in September. I'm planning to enroll in a university language program full time come Fall. Is it possible to stay on my E2 visa and transfer it to another employer with a contract that states X hours per week? I thought this could be easier than going on a student visa and then finding part time work. Perhaps the student visa may be infinitely easier however I was just curious to the legalities and also personal experiences. Thank you. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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2 problems arise.
1) finding s sponsor (employer to hire you part time and still sponsor your visa).
2) doing activities outside your status of sojourn (going to school when on an E2).
(#2 is not insurmountable - you just need permission from immigration to engage in activities not covered by your status of sojourn).
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furtakk
Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:58 am Post subject: |
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I'm looking for the exact same thing at the moment.
It is possible, but the jobs are not really advertised. Most PT jobs that are posted are short-term and for F2/F4s. I've had the most luck contacting some schools directly, but my contract doesn't expire for awhile so I've gotten no definite bites. If you don't have many contacts, try getting in touch with some of the bigger chains. They may be more willing to take on part-timers as long as it works in their benefit as well (i.e. they don't have to cover housing, flight, etc).
Studying (at least language study) is possible on an E2 as far as I know. I did a semester while working full time at my previous job and had 0 issue registering for the language program at a large university. I have no idea about enrolling in an actual degree program though. I also did the night program at a different university with no issue. |
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Sireno
Joined: 19 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:33 am Post subject: |
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This message is aimed at ttompatz as he is quite knowledgeable about laws. First off thank you for the information thus far and you have always been quite helpful when I come to this forum about legalities and regulations in Korea.
My question now comes to my personal situation. I want to keep an E-2 visa with my current hagwon. I would like to create a contract that states I will work X hours. Then on top of that I want to be able to teach privates with that permission from my employer in the contract. How do I go about registering to file taxes from the privates? I'd love to keep this all legal if possible. Does my E-2 sponsor have to be notified about each different private or how should this work?
From my research it seems I need to go to the local government office and let them know about my private activities and file my taxes. Does this seem like a horrible pain in the neck? Or something doable if I'll be having a few privates.
I have found that adding another employer is quite possible with the E2. According to
http://www.hikorea.go.kr/pt/NtcCotnDetailR_en.pt?pageSpec=&targetRow=&lafjOrderBy=&sRange=&sKeyWord=&bbsGbCd=BS10&bbsSeq=2&ntccttSeq=34&pageCode=list&langCd=EN&bbsNm=Notice it seems that you need to notify the immigration office. So does this mean that I can do private tutoring at peoples houses? Or does it need to be through another registered hagwon or company?
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A Guide on Implementation of Report System with Change and Addition of Employment Place
◈ With an aim to simplify foreign professionals' employment process and enable companies to make better use of foreign workforce,
the Ministry of Justice improved the system under which, January 2011 onward, any foreigners, qualified with the requirements of Notif icat ion of No.10-709 by the Justice Minister , only have to make a repor t to Immigration Off ice or Immigrat ion Branch Office, instead of obtaining a pr ior approval, within 15 days in case a change or an addit ion of their employment place occurs.
1. A Guide on Eligible Foreigners
□ Eligible Foreigners
ㅇ Among the foreigners who have finished Foreigner Registration with such status of stay as Professorship(E-1), Foreign Language Instructor(E-2), Research(E-3), Technological Transfer(E-4), Professional Employment(E-5), Arts and Performance(E-6), Special Occupation(E-7) and have been staying in Korea, those who meet the requirements necessary for engaging in changed or added employment place, can change or add their employment place upon reporting. (As an example, in order for an assistant native English teacher to work for a private foreign language institute, he or she must have a bachelor's degree or a higher degree.)
□ Ineligible Foreigners
ㅇ Among Arts and Performance(E-6) eligibles, those who are employed at hotels or pleasure resorts (E-6-2) under Tourism Promotion Act, delivering a performance in such places, shall be excluded from the application of the notification.
ㅇ Among the eligibles from Special Occupation(E-7) which is subject to the limitation on the number of employment owing to the quota system for each company, sales persons(31215), head cooks and cooks(441) shall be excluded from the application.
ㅇ And those who, notwithstanding their bing qualified for the requirements, are dismissed due to the reasons caused by themselves or resign before the date of termination of employment contract without a consent on a transfer from their employers, shall not be covered by the notification.
※ With regard to the ineligible foreigners, they must obtain a prior approval for the change or addition of their employment place from the Justice Minister under the provision of Immigration Act Article 21 and Enforcement Decree of Immigration Act Article 26.
□ Distribution and Collection of a Guidebook
ㅇ To eligible foreigners, a Guidebook on "change and addition of employment place & eligible foreigners" will be distributed in times of Foreigner Registration.
ㅇ In case a foreigner's status of stay changed, or a foreigner receives an order of deportation or a decision of forced removal, or he or she is dismissed due to the reasons caused by himself/herself or resign before the date of termination of employment contract without a consent on a transfer from his or her employer, from him or her the Guidebook will be collected.
2. Report Procedures and Necessary Documents
□ Report Procedures
ㅇA foreinger with a reporting obligation shall report to the head of the jurisdictional immigration office within 15 days from the date when any reasons for reporting arise by submitting "a Report on Change or Addition of Employment Place" and other necessary documents.(Reporting by legal representatives is also allowed.)
ㅇIn principle, the report should be made at the immigration office or immigration branch office having a jurisdiction over a foreigner's place of residence; however, if it is deemed difficult for a foreigner to do so on account of the working condition of his or her workplace, it is also made possible for the foreigner to report at the immigration office or immigration branch office having a jurisdiction over the employment place. (Permission for the extension of the stay period is also included.)
※ Please note that, in principle, the report has to be made by foreigner's visiting immigration office or branch office, because a sticker or a seal, indicating a change or an addition of the foreigner's employment place, will be affixed or stamped.
□ Documents to be Attached (첨부서류)
ㅇBasic Required Documents (공통서류)
� A copy of employment contract (고용계약서), business registration (사업자 등록증), and a letter of consent on a transfer from the head of former employment place (원 근무처 장의 동의서)
※ Provided, that the letter of consent on a transfer will be exempted from submission on the condition that a foreigner continues working up to the expiry date of the contract term or the agreed date between the foreigner and his employer. Furthermore, in case there are inevitable causes such as temporary close or permanent shut-down of the employment place, or overdue wages, the letter of consent on a transfer can be substituted with a document or a letter proving such causes. Please note that, specially with an aim to protect good and sincere employers and to sustain the order of
foreigners' stay in Korea, foreigners who are dismissed due to the reasons caused by themselves or resign before the date of termination of employment contract without the consent on a transfer from their former employers, shall not fall on the eligible category.
(They should apply for a new Certificate of Eligibility for Visa Issuance.)
ㅇDocument requirements according to the status (자격별추가서류)
� E- 2 : A copy of registration certificate of establishment and operation of private institutions (학원설립�운영등록증) and registration certificate of lifelong educational institutions (평생교육시설등록증)
� E- 4 : A copy of technology introduction contract (기술도입계약서), and certificate of designation of defense industry company (방위산업 체 지정서) (instead of a copy of employment contract)
� E- 6 : A letter of recommendation of employment and performance (고용�공연추천서) (Will be submitted only in case of adding a new employment place of the different condition with the original employment place)
� E-7 : An employment recommendation letter or any documents proving the necessity of the employment (고용추천서 또는 고용의 필요성 입증서류)
3. Permission of Stay to Report Subjects, etc.
□ Adjustment and Permission for the Extension of Stay Period
ㅇA report on change or addition of employment place is not an application for a permission of stay but a mere action of report; therefore, any foreigner who wants to stay in excess of the current permitted period of stay according to a new employment contract, it is required to apply for the extension of stay period before reporting.
ㅇ When making a report on change or addition of employment change, a permission for the extension of stay period will be given up to the total period combining the altered period of a new employment contract and plus one more month. This shall be done by comparing the remaining stay period of the report subject and the period of employment contract with a new or added employment place (only upon the request for it and within the maximum permitted stay period). At the same time, adjustment of stay period will also be considered.
□ Foreigners' Dismissal or Resignation, etc.
ㅇ In case of foreigners' dismissal or resignation with their remaining stay period more than 30 days, they have to be present at the jurisdictional immigration office within 30 days and have their stay period adjusted (maximum 6 months of stay period can be given not exceeding the remaining stay period). Otherwise, they (limited to those who are eligible for the change of stay status) |
Thank you for your advice and knowledge. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| Sireno wrote: |
This message is aimed at ttompatz as he is quite knowledgeable about laws. First off thank you for the information thus far and you have always been quite helpful when I come to this forum about legalities and regulations in Korea.
My question now comes to my personal situation. I want to keep an E-2 visa with my current hagwon. I would like to create a contract that states I will work X hours. Then on top of that I want to be able to teach privates with that permission from my employer in the contract. How do I go about registering to file taxes from the privates? I'd love to keep this all legal if possible. Does my E-2 sponsor have to be notified about each different private or how should this work?
From my research it seems I need to go to the local government office and let them know about my private activities and file my taxes. Does this seem like a horrible pain in the neck? Or something doable if I'll be having a few privates.
I have found that adding another employer is quite possible with the E2. According to
http://www.hikorea.go.kr/pt/NtcCotnDetailR_en.pt?pageSpec=&targetRow=&lafjOrderBy=&sRange=&sKeyWord=&bbsGbCd=BS10&bbsSeq=2&ntccttSeq=34&pageCode=list&langCd=EN&bbsNm=Notice it seems that you need to notify the immigration office. So does this mean that I can do private tutoring at peoples houses? Or does it need to be through another registered hagwon or company?
Thank you for your advice and knowledge. |
Bringing in students and teaching them in a rented classroom at your hagwan is doable and legal.
Working at a 2nd hagwan is possible with the written permission of your employer AND registering it at immigration.
Doing privates outside (not with a registered business/employer who is already registered with the MOE) is NOT legal for someone on an E2.
Bottom line = 2nd job = OK. Doing privates is still not legal.
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nstick13
Joined: 02 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Does the second job HAVE to be an English teaching job?
(Sorry to bump an old thread--seemed relevant).
Also, have any SMOE people ever gotten permission for an additional job? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| nstick13 wrote: |
Does the second job HAVE to be an English teaching job?
(Sorry to bump an old thread--seemed relevant).
Also, have any SMOE people ever gotten permission for an additional job? |
1) No. English teachers have also done part-time work as editors, tv/radio announcers, actors, models, talent, consulting, etc.
2) NO. It is a violation of the civil service act. Even if their school says yes, it is illegal and could cost them their job and their sponsorship/visa.
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nstick13
Joined: 02 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:29 am Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
1) No. English teachers have also done part-time work as editors, tv/radio announcers, actors, models, talent, consulting, etc.
2) NO. It is a violation of the civil service act. Even if their school says yes, it is illegal and could cost them their job and their sponsorship/visa.
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So that's the trade-off for the month of no classes I've had this semester. Contract fail. |
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hypnotoad777
Joined: 05 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:12 am Post subject: |
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I was just offered a part-time "freelance" editing job at a top university. I definitely would like to take it because I think it is a foot in the door.
But I currently have 6 months left on a public school contract.
Is there some way to ask special permission to begin work before my contract has ended? |
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hypnotoad777
Joined: 05 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:06 am Post subject: |
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t-hype
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:36 am Post subject: |
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Good question.
I'm in a somewhat similar situation in that I have 6 months left on my current E2. Yet, when I called immigration about changing employers, they gave me a song and dance about having to turn in completely new paperwork DESPITE the fact that I'd be on the same visa while I await my FBI check from the States.
(Maybe they were presuming my new employer would sign me on a 1-year contract despite my saying nothing of the sort?) |
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modernseoul
Joined: 11 Sep 2011
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| t-hype wrote: |
Good question.
I'm in a somewhat similar situation in that I have 6 months left on my current E2. Yet, when I called immigration about changing employers, they gave me a song and dance about having to turn in completely new paperwork DESPITE the fact that I'd be on the same visa while I await my FBI check from the States.
(Maybe they were presuming my new employer would sign me on a 1-year contract despite my saying nothing of the sort?) |
I believe (working at your school and with employer) you can do it if your school gives you permission and it's declared to immigration. It your school doesn't give permission then you can't do it.
If you want to change jobs (transfer visa) it would have to be for another E2 role and you would need a letter of release from your school.
If you want a different visa you may need to apply again and therefore get new paperwork. It really depends on the exact in's and out's of your situation and also the way immigration see it.
Good luck. |
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watergirl
Joined: 01 Jul 2008
Location: Ansan, south korea
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:15 pm Post subject: Hi..does immigration give short-term e2 visas anyone know? |
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Hi
I'm currently back from a trip and am finding good jobs sarce right now.
But, I have found some employers who would be willing to sponsor my E2 visa for only 5 or 6 months (as I don't want to stay with hagwons for a year(.
Curious..Will immigration allow E2 visas for 5mths or 6mths?
Anyone know
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| nstick13 wrote: |
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Also, have any SMOE people ever gotten permission for an additional job? |
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2) NO. It is a violation of the civil service act. Even if their school says yes, it is illegal and could cost them their job and their sponsorship/visa. |
I've done it. PS day job, part-time evening job teaching soldiers. My school, the DOE, & immigration all approved it. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:34 pm Post subject: Re: Hi..does immigration give short-term e2 visas anyone kno |
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| watergirl wrote: |
...Will immigration allow E2 visas for 5mths or 6mths?
Anyone know
Thanks. |
I'm currently on a 6-month E2 visa. Might be different for someone just entering the system. |
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