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[Shimokitazawa]

Two white contractors happened upon the scene as the officer was shooting Martin. Another person filmed the reaction of the contractors after the officer shot the victim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8L3iAOy_5g

[Fox]

The tax payers of Philadelphia will be extorted to the tune of $490,000 to pay for the negligent and abusive actions of Philly cops.

[Leon]

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/09/cop-asks-for-mans-license-shoots-him-when-he-reaches-for-it/380775/

[Kuros]

I'm thinking an explicitly race-neutral policy to reduce police brutality would be somewhat effective for whites, perhaps helpful for browns, and not at all helpful for blacks. In that sense, its going to track the policy outcomes of other explicitly race-neutral policies. I don't know, it might work out this time, though.

[geldedgoat]

[Steelrails]

CCTV footage of African-American Jonathan Crawford being gunned down by police for engaging in a legal transaction and purchasing an item for sale at a store. This is the rare case where both gun-rights advocates and civil rights types should be marching side by side in outrage. Every person who supports concealed carry, open carry, and the 2nd Amendment should be outraged over this.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/43877_Video_of_the_Police_Shooting_That_Killed_John_Crawford_Synced_With_the_Dishonest_911_Call

[Kuros]

[Fox]

Separate, lower pay scales for Blacks does not sound race neutral to me, nor does active refusal to guarantee mortages on racial terms. But that aside, I'd agree that race neutral policies on lending/housing regulation, education, or employment would be likely to produce disparate outcomes for Whites and Blacks, so I think Kuros is right on that account. The reason I think race-neutral remedies for police brutality would be more effective is because they rely upon controlling the conduct of employees of the state, not producing specific outcomes for members of the community.

[guavashake]

Mother Jones Puts Out Absurdly False Article Which May Fan Racial Paranoia, Why? Part 1

http://aun-tv.com/2014/08/mother-jones-puts-out-absurdly-false-article-which-may-fan-racial-paranoia-why-part-1/

So the first thing we learn is Oakland has more Blacks than Whites. The next thing to apply is the crime rates, and they are available. The five-year average for homicide suspects in Oakland breaks down as follows: 64.7% Black, 8.6% Hispanic, 0.2% White, 2.0% Asian and 24.4% Unknown. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Oakland,_California

So the math is very easy. To tell if Blacks are being disproportionally shot by police in Oakland, for the 76% of crimes where race is known for the culprit, 65% are Blacks and 0.2% White. This is shocking, as both groups are almost equal in population size. This means Blacks in Oakland are about 300 times more likely to murder someone than Whites, we had to double check that to believe it. The correct percent for police shootings should be 65/76 or 86% of all police shootings were Blacks being shot, if there was perfect non-discrimination by police.

37 of 45 is 82%. This is not a wide discrepancy, although it does indicate a slight pro-Black and anti-White/Other racial discrimination by the Oakland Police.

Perfection should not be expected in a sample of 45, so we will give the Oakland police department an A+ for non-racist shooting statistics. But as we have seen, Mother Jones used these numbers, that prove non-racist behavior, falsely as evidence of racism. It is mind boggling. By the time someone of average intelligence is a High School freshman, he/she knows enough not to make such a flawed case.

Is this mind boggling incompetence? Is it political corruption, similar to how newspapers would drum up support for Ku Klux Klan lynchings with lies in the past? We decided to investigate. What we found out is surprising.

Who is the culprit? Jae ah Lee, of Mother Jones

NYPD Firearms Discharge Report, 2011
Her data shows that whites are shot at by police about 4 to 5 times more than Blacks, in relation to criminal activity. Her graph, from the NYPD shows no White person has fired at the police, yet about 22% of people hit by police gunfire, are White. Lee’s graph shows about 3% of criminal shootings are by Whites, yet 22% of people shot (hit) by police are White. About 70% of criminal shootings are by Blacks, yet only about 42% of people shot (hit) by police are Black.

This is unlike Oakland, NYPD statistics do show a clear racial inequity, that Whites are being targeted for police shooting (hits) about 7 times more than they should be. And that Blacks are being shot by Police 66% less than they should be, if the police department were non-racist.

This information that Lee put in her article totally refutes the entire premise of her article, yet she did not notice this.

How can we explain this over shooting of Whites by the New York Police, besides racism? There is a good explanation, self interest. It is much easier for the police to shoot a White than a Black. You do not get Ferguson-like rioting, looting, national attention and investigation, if you shoot a White person. If Michael Brown were White, would have any of us heard of him, outside of St. Louis? Almost for sure, the answer is no. The Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division certainly would not look into it. It has become so racist under Obama that several members of it resigned in protest, after they were told by higher ups that the Obama Administration only cares about civil rights for non-Whites.

So the reason it appears the NYPD is racist, by over targeting Whites for shootings, is most likely that they are not doing that. What they are doing, is giving preferential treatment to Blacks and avoiding shooting Blacks, even if it endangers their own lives and other lives, because society cares more about the shooting of Blacks than Whites.

This is exactly why Blacks were shot by police much more than Whites, in the 1950s, in racially segregated States. They would get much more trouble shooting a White than a Black, even if an officer murdering a Black were socially acceptable in some areas. Blacks had much less protection by the news media and society.

The bottom-line on this article is that it is not only totally false in its premise, but it is racial paranoia-generating. It makes people fear things that do not exist, while covering up real major dangers.

[sirius black]

The number and breadth of police misconduct nationally in departments both large and small demands its a national issue. Its not only blacks, but if you youtube (using it as a verb) police abuse/brutality = any group...elderly, soccer mom, co-ed, handicap, groups that one would deem fairy immune from police misconduct you will find videos. A national policy to demand that ALL law enforcement have on body cams as well as car cams every time they engage the public. A remedy for off duty cops as well.

As for cops and abusing minorities specifically blacks its always been the case. It was certainly the case pre civil rights and if someone can say exactly when it stopped and re-started recently i'd love to hear which year or decade.

Its my thought that since 9/11 its gotten worse as cops and anyone official with a gun or quasi law enforcement duties (airport screeners, etc.) feel they have a free hand. Also, thier is an amount of arrogance in them as well. Although their salaries are paid by tax dollars they deem they are above being challenged, not physically but verbally.

The culture is overly aggressive.

[Shimokitazawa]

[Kuros]

[Titus]

There goes the narrative.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/18/ferguson-on-knife-edge-of-more-violence-after-grand-jury-evidence-leak.html

Basically the stupid guy tested Darwin and reached for the cop's gun. He is dead now, as should be the case, and a dying little suburb nobody ever heard of is going to get a BBQ.

[Fox]

[guavashake]