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Cave Dweller
Joined: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: Why I left Korea |
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No less embarrassed by Harper's recent actions in Canada. The saddest part is that Harper is the best among the other party laders, and that is saying a lot.
Park is a friggin' communist.
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| I left Korea this year for only 1 reason. In Korea I was always a foreigner even though I had permanent residency. In Australia my Korean wife has permanent residency and for all day to day dealings she is Australian. |
That's interesting. I like the "foreigner" experience -being separated from the majority population allows me to feel more comfortable.
For example, if I were an Australian living in Australia now I would be terribly ashamed and upset with the recent developments under Tony Abbott's government.
However, in Japan, despite Abe also being a moron (perhaps not as obnoxious as Abbott, however,) it doesn't bother me. I'm in Japan but my lack of investment and involvement in civic life insulates me from getting too annoyed with it. Similarly when I was in Korea, Park probably is as obnoxious as Abbott, but I didn't really care.
It's hard to explain, but, for me, it takes a lot of mental stress out of my life not having to feel in some way connected to the majority. I can observe the appalling state of society but not feel in some way responsible like I would at home.
Vive le étranger. |
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Sister Ray
Joined: 25 Mar 2006
Location: Fukuoka
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Why I left Korea |
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| Cave Dweller wrote: |
No less embarrassed by Harper's recent actions in
Park is a friggin' communist.
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Well, indeed. My own home Government is also an abomination recently reelected with a large majority. I only chose Australia as an example as the OP had moved there and Abbott has been particularly objectionable for the past few weeks.
If Park was actually a communist she'd probably be less objectionable than she is currently. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Why do you care that much about the leader of the country you live in, they don't affect your daily life much.
I lived in Korea under Noh, Lee, and Park - I don't think my life changed because of them. |
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Sister Ray
Joined: 25 Mar 2006
Location: Fukuoka
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
Why do you care that much about the leader of the country you live in, they don't affect your daily life much.
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I don't care if it's not my home country. That's pretty much my point. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Your vote for local school board and stuff like millage increases for parks has for more impact on your daily life relative to your vote for President in terms of influence from your vote. When races have vote totals of roughly 1000 votes cast, those elected officials are going to be far more responsive and 1 million times more accessible. |
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Cave Dweller
Joined: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:04 am Post subject: |
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It certainly has affected our lives for the better or worse.
Under Noh, he made the F-2 visa a freelancer visa, improving a lot of things. Also under Lee, the new criminal checks came in, the proctology that is immigration now. Also, tensions with the north were bad and the exchange rate went to shit.
Under Park, the free market is no longer free.
| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
Why do you care that much about the leader of the country you live in, they don't affect your daily life much.
I lived in Korea under Noh, Lee, and Park - I don't think my life changed because of them. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| Your vote for local school board and stuff like millage increases for parks has for more impact on your daily life relative to your vote for President in terms of influence from your vote. |
Well, yes, but that's because your vote for President has an approximate influence of zero. Choosing Presidents by popular vote only really makes sense when the Presidency is relatively weak; the consequences of such a superficial voting process -- and a mass vote on that scale can't help but be superficial -- should in turn be superficial. |
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LPKSA
Joined: 24 Feb 2014
Location: Saudi Arabia
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| I went from Korea to KTown LA and found... I was still a foreigner. |
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big_fella1
Joined: 08 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:56 am Post subject: |
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I never claimed that Australia was perfect nor that Korea was bad. I just expressed my preference for my family being treated the same.
Regarding racism by Australians it does exist but attacks based on race if reported will lead to criminal convictions. We have anti-discrimination laws here. |
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Squire
Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| I read a good comment on here by someone who said in the early stages of his relationship with his (now) wife he asked her to stop thinking of him as a foreigner and think of him as a person. It made me realise that apart from a small number of people who I've spent a lot of time with the vast majority of Koreans I'm around daily seem to still view me as primarily a foreigner before anything else. And not even a Brit, but just a general western foreigner. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:06 am Post subject: |
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| Cave Dweller wrote: |
It certainly has affected our lives for the better or worse.
Under Noh, he made the F-2 visa a freelancer visa, improving a lot of things. Also under Lee, the new criminal checks came in, the proctology that is immigration now. Also, tensions with the north were bad and the exchange rate went to shit.
Under Park, the free market is no longer free.
| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
Why do you care that much about the leader of the country you live in, they don't affect your daily life much.
I lived in Korea under Noh, Lee, and Park - I don't think my life changed because of them. |
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