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How much do you make a month and is it worth it?
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Adam Carolla



Joined: 26 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
^ Oh my, this is just delusional/weird.

I guess I have that effect on people. Wink


Thank you. Much too easy.
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

le-paul wrote:
KimchiNinja wrote:
FriendlyDaegu wrote:
How much more could I make (percentage, say), what would I have to do to get there, and would it be worth it?


It's generally a long road involving WORK to make more money, in any field. Invest in education level, do time with long hours, carefully build a network, improve communication skills, develop specific in-demand skills, invest in a better wardrobe, etc. I slaved away for a decade before any real signs of it being "worth it" appeared...


Finishing middle and high school doesn't count as 'putting in the hours' and its a lot easier to network when youre at school.


I mean, whatever you think of KN as a poster, that was a good response. Especially, the in demand skills part.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMO wrote:
le-paul wrote:
KimchiNinja wrote:
FriendlyDaegu wrote:
How much more could I make (percentage, say), what would I have to do to get there, and would it be worth it?


It's generally a long road involving WORK to make more money, in any field. Invest in education level, do time with long hours, carefully build a network, improve communication skills, develop specific in-demand skills, invest in a better wardrobe, etc. I slaved away for a decade before any real signs of it being "worth it" appeared...


Finishing middle and high school doesn't count as 'putting in the hours' and its a lot easier to network when youre at school.


I mean, whatever you think of KN as a poster, that was a good response. Especially, the in demand skills part.


Which you can say about a lot of his posts. Sure, he trolls, but a lot of his trolling has a large dose of truth in it.
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fustiancorduroy



Joined: 12 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thegadfly wrote:
Well, just to be clear, upper 2% of income in Korea is around 60-70 million won a year. Upper 1% would need to break 100 million, but top 2% (or 98th percentile) is only 65-ish million...which is not that much of a stretch at all, actually.

I could easily see someone who was husslin' and busslin', with decent contacts, making that. I could also see folks making that much at one place, if they got a lot of overtime at said place.

Just sayin' there is a bigger gap between the 98th and 99th percentile (about 40 million) than there is between the 90th and 98th percentile (about 20 million).

Of course, I am using 2010 figures, so if someone is using something more recent, I may be a bit off....

http://apebh2013.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/nak-nyeon-kim-income-inequality-in-korea-1933-2010.pdf


Thanks for the link. I've always wanted to see this sort of information about income levels in Korea. I'm a bit surprised by--and skeptical of--the fact that my income was in the 99th percentile in Korea. I made a decent amount of money last year, but not that much. Not enough to make me feel like a 1 percenter.

I think in Korea it is also important to take into a account an individual's savings, how much money they get/have gotten from their parents, etc. when evaluating wealth. Income alone is not a good measure.

Also, I can't speak for other people, but I don't post much on here anymore because I'm too busy working and making money to do so.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fustiancorduroy wrote:
Thanks for the link. I've always wanted to see this sort of information about income levels in Korea. I'm a bit surprised by--and skeptical of--the fact that my income was in the 99th percentile in Korea. I made a decent amount of money last year, but not that much. Not enough to make me feel like a 1 percenter.


Yeah, it was interesting. Didn't read the whole thing yet as it was super detailed, but at first glance it looks like there is less income inequality in KR (relative to the US); thus less super rich (and perhaps less super poor?). I think it's quite hard for the people to bust thru the 100M won threshold here, even at a spanky chaebol job. Anyhow, with time capital will likely concentrate into fewer hands.
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GENO123



Joined: 28 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Offical numbers always understate the actual income of Koreans . There is lots of hidden unreported money and then there is all the use of company issued credit cards.
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Nester Noodlemon



Joined: 16 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
fustiancorduroy wrote:
Thanks for the link. I've always wanted to see this sort of information about income levels in Korea. I'm a bit surprised by--and skeptical of--the fact that my income was in the 99th percentile in Korea. I made a decent amount of money last year, but not that much. Not enough to make me feel like a 1 percenter.


Yeah, it was interesting. Didn't read the whole thing yet as it was super detailed, but at first glance it looks like there is less income inequality in KR (relative to the US); thus less super rich (and perhaps less super poor?). I think it's quite hard for the people to bust thru the 100M won threshold here, even at a spanky chaebol job. Anyhow, with time capital will likely concentrate into fewer hands.


Did you notice on the chart how the income of the Top 1% is higher than the Top 5%? The income of the Top 5% is higher than the Top 10%?

These are things we finiancial professionals learn early in our careers.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Yes Nester Noodlemon, I think we all noticed that. Thank you for, yet again, adding ZERO to the conversation. The forum needs more pointless comments like this...
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tophatcat



Joined: 09 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GENO123 wrote:
Offical numbers always understate the actual income of Koreans . There is lots of hidden unreported money and then there is all the use of company issued credit cards.


This is what I have attempted to explain numerous times. It's not uncommon for Koreans to have company issued cards and plop 200,000 to 500,000 won on personal expenses each month. This isn't figured into the annual salary. The guys in the blue truck who were paid 650,000 won to move the furniture. Cash.
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Adam Carolla



Joined: 26 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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