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short term vs long term thinking

 
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le-paul



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:17 am    Post subject: short term vs long term thinking Reply with quote

Ive read a lot of new age stuff on the net recently about 'trying to live in the moment' - and not always thinking about the future.

However, when applying this to thinking about the environment and the repercussions of our actions in general, it would seem following this logic that there is no point in recycling, trying not to burn fossil fuels etc. Basically, whetever we do will eventually not matter in the big scheme of things, as the universe will eventually be in a state of entropy or complete disorder, where nothing we have ever done will leave any trace or matter (excuse the pun).

So, my question to you all is, unless you have children or are feeling particularly alturistic - why not just throw everything down in the street so it ends up in the sea next time you cant find a rubbish bin/trash can especially styrofoam, cigarettes and plastic, and waste as much unrenewable resources/energy as possible?. Oh, and dont worry about the impact your presence has on the natural environment for example erosion.- you wont be here to see it anyway.

Good luck to you!
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tragedy of the Commons

Most of the best strategies for long term planning emphasize not getting overly swept away in the length and difficulty of the overall committment. The key is to compartmentalize so that you accomplish 'mini-goals' on the way to the bigger end run. In this way, it is possible to live, albeit not constantly in 'the moment', while knocking out a long term goal.

I tell all my new grad students the same thing: Don't get too bogged down by the fact that your degree might take you 2-2.5 years (MA) or 4-7 years (Ph.D.). Remember that it's a series of semesters, and semesters are only 15 weeks. And during that 15 weeks, you might be writing up to 100 pages, so stay on top of your papers and don't leave stuff to the last minute. Read, PLAN, write, repeat the mantra. Then take a breather and grab a beer. Now your one semester closer to finishing.

Same for the thesis or disseratation. Anyone is going to get intimidated by the prospect of researching and writing 80-250 pages (depending on the degree), but if you approach it chapter by chapter in 10-20 page spurts, you can knock it out. Again, PLAN.

Saving and investing? Similar. Tell someone they need to put together 100 grand in X number years and they might go bonkers. If they put aside so much a week by curbing foo-foo coffee and overpriced pretty food intake, don't go into debt for that vacation they 'absolutely deserve', then, poof, it'll go a long way to making it happen.
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optik404



Joined: 24 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed that if you throw something into a water body, like a lake or an ocean, that the next day you come back and it's gone so, somehow it takes it away and filters it through and it just cleans it up, like a garbage compactor or whatever. So it's not really littering if you ask me.
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basic69isokay



Joined: 28 Sep 2014
Location: korea

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Intelligent people often over-plan, and don't take action in the moment. Thus, they miss out.

Don't be so caught up in the future that you miss the present.
If you have an opportunity, sieze it instantly or it will be gone while you're busy contemplating.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:20 am    Post subject: Re: short term vs long term thinking Reply with quote

le-paul wrote:
So, my question to you all is, unless you have children or are feeling particularly alturistic - why not just throw everything down in the street so it ends up in the sea next time you cant find a rubbish bin/trash can especially styrofoam, cigarettes and plastic, and waste as much unrenewable resources/energy as possible?. Oh, and dont worry about the impact your presence has on the natural environment for example erosion.- you wont be here to see it anyway.

Good luck to you!


Uh? Umm? Probably because I wouldn't do it back home, either. Most "people" know about half-lives and the rest these days. Pick ur shit up, please. Even if it's just gonna be burned here, it's better than nothing. {Yes, I DO have kids here. I constantly have to remind them and their mother to place the recycling shit where it belongs. I also ALWAYS tell 'em that this place is a stanky ultra-littered place when compared to any place back home. THAT actually DOES make 'em think a bit about it. Maybe become a bit ashamed - as they should.} p.s. I've never been a tree-hugger; but I'm not a litter-bug.

WRT optiks' comment: yeah(i know he's trying to be funny n all), take a snorkelling lesson around here, or anywhere for that matter. That shit dont sink. it sinks, and floats, and stinks, and fuks shit up, o, yeah, think about that 2, please. p.s. Korea likely 1 of the worst in that regard.
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Lucas



Joined: 11 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Uh? Umm? Probably because I wouldn't do it back home, either. Most "people" know about half-lives and the rest these days. Pick ur shit up, please. Even if it's just gonna be burned here, it's better than nothing. {Yes, I DO have kids here. I constantly have to remind them and their mother to place the recycling shit where it belongs. I also ALWAYS tell 'em that this place is a stanky ultra-littered place when compared to any place back home. THAT actually DOES make 'em think a bit about it. Maybe become a bit ashamed - as they should.} p.s. I've never been a tree-hugger; but I'm not a litter-bug.

WRT optiks' comment: yeah(i know he's trying to be funny n all), take a snorkelling lesson around here, or anywhere for that matter. That shit dont sink. it sinks, and floats, and stinks, and fuks shit up, o, yeah, think about that 2, please. p.s. Korea likely 1 of the worst in that regard.


I hope your wife teaches your kids English, not you! Razz
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Long Now Foundation is fascinating, actively aiming to foster consideration of the really deep future. Some brilliant minds at work & play. Led by the inimitable Stewart Brand (wiki him if you dont know the name).

"Be here now" meets big-picture thinking:
http://longnow.org/about/
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