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optik404



Joined: 24 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aq8knyus wrote:
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You all keep calling him a troll, a Korean, a teenager, a phony, etc, so why keep engaging with him online?


Why take time out of your day to defend him? Is it because he is frequently in agreement with what you write?

He plagues multiple threads with thinly veiled attacks on foreigners and teachers in Korea. You can try to ignore him, but when he plagues multiple threads, it is hard not to engage his incoherent ramblings.


Who's defending him?
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I've been here over 20 years, and at the risk of being pummeled for bringing it up again, we've had a good run of success across a couple of different career lines.

Some problems with the OP's take on things:

1. The comment came from a taxi driver. Any inclination to post based on said comment should have been nipped in the bud after considering the source.

2. In general, I've found that there is an inverse relationships between the deployment of the 'polished sophisticated' look and the actual amount of success a person has achieved (and the coin that goes with it). If you have money, you tend to worry about this stuff less and less.

3. The advice given by the OP seems to be distinctly metrosexual. It is 'metro', right? If I took pains to address everything on that checklist, my wife of 17 years wouldn't be happy about it, and certainly would not proud of the fact her man was wrapped up in all that stuff.

Having said all this, the thrust of the arguement is that, yes, in MOST situations here, a clean cut appearance will rule the day. But it defininitely depends on several factors, and taxi drivers definitely aren't the source to consider.

SO let's get to some real manly advice, taken from my dad and based on his generation's perceptions, they still ring true in my book. He always said a guy didn't need to do much to be presentable:

1. Shoes match belt
2. Socks same or darker color than pants
3. Cut your nails and have clean hands
4. Carry a hanky. If wearing a suit, it gets tucked in the pocket. They come in handy and a lady might need one.
5. A decent pair of shoes is important, not only because they're comfortable, but because a lot of idiots are shallow and think that if the shoes are expensive, so is everything else. Get them on sale. Always.
6. Don't go nuts on the aftershave or cologne. Tacky.

We were also taught how to tie three different tie knots, how to tell whether or not a sport coat is a good fit, where a pant cuff should break, how to make a haircut last (you can trim up your own neck with a razor), and how to iron a dress shirt. All this was simply considered knowledge passed from father to son.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and a man should know his drink. No fumbling for request at the bar. A man has a go-to signature cocktail. I always liked that pearl of wisdom.
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Cave Dweller



Joined: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gin and Tonic over here. Or a Caesar.

Any beer except Korean beer.
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Died By Bear



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
Oh, and a man should know his drink. No fumbling for request at the bar. A man has a go-to signature cocktail. I always liked that pearl of wisdom.



Along with the list you provided, this was ingrained into me at uni, by my big brother and his gang, well done pr.
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Squire



Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sometimes wonder if I'm guilty of splashing on too much aftershave. A splash for one side of my face and neck, a splash for the other, and then the same for my wrists.

Anyway, there was a thread a few months ago about ESL teachers who overdress for work but I have to say I'm with the OP on this one. Dress how you want to dress, but I reckon there are a lot of people who will look at the unshaven guy with jeans and assume they're lazier and less competent than a sharper dresser. I'm not saying there's necessarily any proof in that but it's difficult to prove otherwise to co-workers, parents etc. who never see you teaching or at your desk preparing classes.
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Cave Dweller



Joined: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of you hate him and dont want to agree with him as he has little to no social skills but KN is spot on with some of his observations. His delivery needs work however.

It is prudent to dress well to fit into this culture of all flash and no substance.
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aq8knyus



Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cave Dweller wrote:
A lot of you hate him and dont want to agree with him as he has little to no social skills but KN is spot on with some of his observations. His delivery needs work however.

It is prudent to dress well to fit into this culture of all flash and no substance.


KN wasn't giving advice, he wanted to start a thread about how he considers all Americans to be dirty.

Everyone knows it is a good idea to dress smartly.

It is like me starting a thread to remind everyone about the importance of showering.
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Stain



Joined: 08 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cave Dweller wrote:
A lot of you hate him and dont want to agree with him as he has little to no social skills but KN is spot on with some of his observations. His delivery needs work however.

It is prudent to dress well to fit into this culture of all flash and no substance.


Yes, he's right if somebody wants to stay here for a long time. But many don't. They couldn't care less about this place and dress accordingly. Back home in a job they cared about, they wouldn't do that. Those who do want to stay here for a long time will adhere to the superficiality if (and only if) it benefits them monetarily. In almost all cases, it does. But Ninja isn't concerned about that. His thing is to make foreigners look bad. More specifically, people from the U.S., a place he came from. I can only imagine what happened to him over there.
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The Cosmic Hum



Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stain wrote:
Cave Dweller wrote:
A lot of you hate him and dont want to agree with him as he has little to no social skills but KN is spot on with some of his observations. His delivery needs work however.

It is prudent to dress well to fit into this culture of all flash and no substance.


Yes, he's right if somebody wants to stay here for a long time. But many don't. They couldn't care less about this place and dress accordingly. Back home in a job they cared about, they wouldn't do that. Those who do want to stay here for a long time will adhere to the superficiality if (and only if) it benefits them monetarily. In almost all cases, it does. But Ninja isn't concerned about that. His thing is to make foreigners look bad. More specifically, people from the U.S., a place he came from. I can only imagine what happened to him over there.

And wonder what happened to him here too.
Your toilet paper campaign appears to have worked.
Well done.
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Smithington



Joined: 14 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ninja boy hasn't posted in ten days. Anybody have any theories?
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Cave Dweller



Joined: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's hamming it up with Warren Buffet and drinking his $80 glasses of champagne and enjoying the retired life. Leave the poor guy alone.

Smithington wrote:
Ninja boy hasn't posted in ten days. Anybody have any theories?
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Smithington



Joined: 14 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aq8knyus wrote:
Why are you even here KN? You are not an English teacher, do us all a favour and go on a forum for foreign engineers in Korea and annoy them for a while.


He seems to have taken your advice. Or was the decision made for him? Either way, it's a positive development.

Now where the hell did PatrickBusan go?
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augustine



Joined: 08 Sep 2012
Location: México

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Masterful troll by Steelrails, though he steelrailed it up eventually, of course.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

augustine wrote:
Masterful troll by Steelrails, though he steelrailed it up eventually, of course.


What the??? I haven't been on this thread. And no, I am not Kimchininja. I don't have a sock account. One look at the writing and posting style should confirm this.

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Oh, and a man should know his drink. No fumbling for request at the bar. A man has a go-to signature cocktail. I always liked that pearl of wisdom.


So I take it a starter of a flute of Tosti Asti and an Anti-fris would be a no-no?

I kid, I kid. Laphroaig 18 year, neat. Bulleit Bourbon if they don't carry that. And if you're at the bar at the bowling alley- 3 shots of Jack and a pitcher of Molson.
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