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Segye Ilbo Article About Foreign Teachers
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aq8knyus



Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan Rogers wrote:
SHGator428 wrote:
Stan Rogers wrote:
Yawn. This kind of stuff has been floating around for years.

Considering the many foreign freaks I've run into over the years, I believe their suspicion is warranted.

I would also add that most foreign teachers are working side jobs in violation of their work visa and not paying income tax on the monies received for such illegal work.

I do not engage in such illegal activity in Korea and considering that most foreign teachers are involved in criminal activity I have no sympathy for what some Koreans may say about them.

Wether or not a news article is 100% accurate, I believe their suspicion is warranted.


I always get a kick out of dudes like you.

"I've met so many freaks". "Others give me a bad name" "Koreans like me because I'm different". LOL


If law abiding tax payer makes me different then so be it. I think it is unfair that honest Koreans business owners have to lose business to illegal foreigners who think it's ok to break the law in Korea. Honest Koreans and foreigners should not be punished or lose money for obeying the law. That's why I have no sympathy when a foreigner or a Korean gets run through the ringer for committing crimes in Korea.


The underground economy in Korea is something like 30% the size of GDP last I heard.

It is a bit rich complaining about the small fry that a minority of English teachers withold in taxes when the entire country is up to their necks in wholescale tax evasion.
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Cave Dweller



Joined: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tax cheats are so easy to spot here. Any business that has a 'cash price' and a different, higher price for cards.

Any business that doesn't give cash receipts.

Every truck selling fruit, virtually every food cart.
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Otus



Joined: 09 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has Homer been reincarnated, or is this second generation offspring ... ? (in reference to Stan Rogers)
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe so many of you see nothing wrong with breaking the law. Good luck with that guys. I'm also surprised by how many of you defend your illegal activities by that famous "a bunch of other people are doing it so it's ok if I do it" logic. And some of you have no business comparing yourselves to Koreans. It's not your country and you are not Korean.

Getting back to the OP's article, I'm glad that reporters are reminding the public about people like Quincy Black. What he did was horrible and people like that are a real threat to children.
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aq8knyus



Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan Rogers wrote:
I can't believe so many of you see nothing wrong with breaking the law. Good luck with that guys. I'm also surprised by how many of you defend your illegal activities by that famous "a bunch of other people are doing it so it's ok if I do it" logic. And some of you have no business comparing yourselves to Koreans. It's not your country and you are not Korean.


I don't teach illegally.

I just think that it is small fry compared to the huge amounts of tax evasion that literally every family in Korea is engaged.

Stan Rogers wrote:
Getting back to the OP's article, I'm glad that reporters are reminding the public about people like Quincy Black. What he did was horrible and people like that are a real threat to children.


The reportage is factually inaccurate and suggests there are problems where none occur.

Considering the fact that it was dodgy media pressure that led to the stupid HIV tests we have to do, I think we have a right to be annoyed.
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GENO123



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Law and ethics have nothing to do with one another. Besides private teaching is relglected in the low salaries in contracts.
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Cave Dweller



Joined: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer is the Patrick Busan guy. Same guy.

Otus wrote:
Has Homer been reincarnated, or is this second generation offspring ... ? (in reference to Stan Rogers)
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GENO123 wrote:
Law and ethics have nothing to do with one another. Besides private teaching is relglected in the low salaries in contracts.

We've got a winner!
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan Rogers wrote:
I can't believe so many of you see nothing wrong with breaking the law. Good luck with that guys. I'm also surprised by how many of you defend your illegal activities by that famous "a bunch of other people are doing it so it's ok if I do it" logic. And some of you have no business comparing yourselves to Koreans. It's not your country and you are not Korean.

Getting back to the OP's article, I'm glad that reporters are reminding the public about people like Quincy Black. What he did was horrible and people like that are a real threat to children.

And yet you were the one saying the woman who was sexually attacked should have take the money and defended the concept of blood money. Now you're arguing everyone should abide by the letter of the law.

I'm also surprised by how you defend your argument with that famous "It's not your country" logic.
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edwardcatflap



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can't believe so many of you see nothing wrong with breaking the law. Good luck with that guys. I'm also surprised by how many of you defend your illegal activities by that famous "a bunch of other people are doing it so it's ok if I do it" logic.


Some might say it's indicative of the extended period of childhood modern youth seem to expect to go through today
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Otus



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the feeling this thread is going to get totally 'socked' if it isn't already.
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL. So many of you think that Korean laws should be strictly enforced as long as it isn't the crime that you are involved in.

BTW FYI fines have gone up a lot recently so be ready to pay up when you get caught.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan Rogers wrote:
LOL. So many of you think that Korean laws should be strictly enforced as long as it isn't the crime that you are involved in.

BTW FYI fines have gone up a lot recently so be ready to pay up when you get caught.


What crimes was I involved in?
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GENO123



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan Rogers wrote:
LOL. So many of you think that Korean laws should be strictly enforced as long as it isn't the crime that you are involved in.

BTW FYI fines have gone up a lot recently so be ready to pay up when you get caught.
i dont think the posters are hung up about the law. I think they just want reasonably good conditions. If work conditions wete better there would be less private teaching.
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le-paul



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GENO123 wrote:
Stan Rogers wrote:
LOL. So many of you think that Korean laws should be strictly enforced as long as it isn't the crime that you are involved in.

BTW FYI fines have gone up a lot recently so be ready to pay up when you get caught.
i dont think the posters are hung up about the law. I think they just want reasonably good conditions. If work conditions wete better there would be less private teaching.


Im also pretty sure that if our visas were flexible enough to allow work over the allotted hours, most people would declare their income. I bet my lunch that most married people on 'x' visa, pay their taxes - it just isnt the majority mind set. Its the cheating, diseased thinking of koreans where its honourable in some way to know you got one over on someone thats the issue. Thats how they think, so they judge everyone else by their own fuckedup standards.

Btw, I have a friend who works for the tax office and he told me there is a huge problem in korea of avoiding/not declaring taxes. He also said that the biggest knock on effect is that homeless people/disabled/elderly etc. services/payments/support etc. is virtually non existant as a result of this.

Think about morals vs the law next time you see a beggar and know hes probably doing it as the result of the 200,000 a month he's expected to pay his rent and feed himself with - or an old woman offering you a blow job in the park for 5000 won.
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