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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| where are the hogwons that pay 35 for 15 block hours? |
You've just been proven completely and wholly wrong. Let the grown-ups ask questions and talk now. When it's time for you to talk again, we'll let you know. |
show the hogwons that pay 35 for 15 block hours |
What did I say? It's not time for you to talk. No one has ever said anything about 15 hour blocks from a single hagwon, that's been pointed out 3 different times now, but the rate has been verified by 2 people much smater than you. When we need the rantings a of a benighted invalid, we'll send you a message, until then, hush. |
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GENO123
Joined: 28 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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It worked that way some of the time not all of the time. anyway about me
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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You already asked that once, remember your claim about how rare 3.0 is for after schools? It was shown, you're done. You've played all your cards and lost. You don't get to keep going back to the well looking for something else. You flipped your coin and you lost this time. Whatever time you might have been right before, dumb luck.
You're on the internet, you easily could have gone and checked the actual salaries of after schools before repeating over and over again "Look on the internet!" Instead, you shot your load, got it all over your face, and look like an idiot. I gave you an opportunity to walk away, you pushed it, so be sure to know, any future discussions will include a link to this one. Good luck to you. Should be fun for you when your voice cracks. |
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GENO123
Joined: 28 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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You already asked that once, remember your claim about how rare 3.0 is for after schools? It was shown, you're done. You've played all your cards and lost. You don't get to keep going back to the well looking for something else. You flipped your coin and you lost this time. Whatever time you might have been right before, dumb luck.
You're on the internet, you easily could have gone and checked the actual salaries of after schools before repeating over and over again "Look on the internet!" Instead, you shot your load, got it all over your face, and look like an idiot. I gave you an opportunity to walk away, you pushed it, so be sure to know, any future discussions will include a link to this one. Good luck to you. Should be fun for you when your voice cracks. |
Let it link to this one. Funny how no one else backs your story. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Funny how no one else backs your story. |
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| But doing the flyer thing, and approaching hogwons directly still yielded proper pay (hogwons paying 35K per class if 3 in a row, or 40K for 2 in a row - never do just one)**. |
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GENO123
Joined: 28 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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| was like last year wasn't. Just cause it worked one time. doesn't mean it works all the time. and then there is the question of the boss and the students. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| was like last year wasn't. Just cause it worked one time. doesn't mean it works all the time. and then there is the question of the boss and the students. |
Again, not if you're competent. So that's two times you've had the argument completely cut out for under you, and you've been given enough rope. I think you've properly hung yourself now. When the adults need you, we'll let you know. |
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wooden nickels
Joined: 23 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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It's much more difficult for F visas in 2014 than in 2007, or 2003.
It's much more difficult for E visas in 2014 than in 2007, or 2003.
It's most likely going to be more difficult in 2015 and 2016.
The are a lot of job ads for E visas and F visas, but it doesn't mean that you will easily get the job.
My thoughts, based on the people I know, Es and Fs are banking much less on the same effort today as compared to the past.
This is my point of having worked every scenario, now being a F holder, and having 12 years in Korea.
The F has some advantages, but if you aren't plowing forward with the E, you most likely aren't going to do much better on the F.
To me, the E was worth it. Too, the F has been worth it.
If I was young and new to the ESL industry, I would be heading to China or I would have already been in China a couple of years ago. |
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GENO123
Joined: 28 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| alongway wrote: |
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| was like last year wasn't. Just cause it worked one time. doesn't mean it works all the time. and then there is the question of the boss and the students. |
Again, not if you're competent. So that's two times you've had the argument completely cut out for under you, and you've been given enough rope. I think you've properly hung yourself now. When the adults need you, we'll let you know. |
The only thing you seem to be competent at is being an exagerator who always throws out the best case. Real world not exageration world.
Look on the internet you don't see lots of block hours with to jobs at 35K that would match your schedule five days a week at a rate of 35K or better. Just cause someone found one in one area doesn't mean that applies everywhere or would work everywhere. This is a key point.
Futhermore:
*The boss would have to be good -or the job would not be that good
*The students would have to be sort of good or the job wouldn't be that good.
Also the job would have to be steady. Not that common with ESL conversation no longer being in high demand.
Some of those things work some of the time , but they would not work that way all the time. If they don't work that way ALL the time then neither does your argument.
You missed out on the won . So I guess you weren't competent then were you?
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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| Being married with both of us teaching full time we have pulled in about 6 million won a month. However, those few months were so tiring especially for my wife. There were no off days and most of the work was done on the weekends. You will get burned out really fast and I couldn't imagine the workload to make 5 or 6 million alone. Just the thought that there is nothing to look forward to in the week really. Everyday is just working and even if you like your job, not having a day off really gets to you. |
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Roman Holiday
Joined: 22 Sep 2014
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| Being married with both of us teaching full time we have pulled in about 6 million won a month. However, those few months were so tiring especially for my wife. There were no off days and most of the work was done on the weekends. You will get burned out really fast and I couldn't imagine the workload to make 5 or 6 million alone. Just the thought that there is nothing to look forward to in the week really. Everyday is just working and even if you like your job, not having a day off really gets to you. |
Bring back the Sabbath, I say.  |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:45 am Post subject: |
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| Being married with both of us teaching full time we have pulled in about 6 million won a month. However, those few months were so tiring especially for my wife. There were no off days and most of the work was done on the weekends. You will get burned out really fast and I couldn't imagine the workload to make 5 or 6 million alone. Just the thought that there is nothing to look forward to in the week really. Everyday is just working and even if you like your job, not having a day off really gets to you. |
Were you in Seoul?
I assume your wife was working at a hagwon? M-F at a basic hagwon job should pay 1.5-2. If she has a special skill, seniority, or something else, she should have gotten more. Adding weekends should only have increased that.
That would have left, 4 to 4.5 for you to make up. I've already demonstrated an easy enough method to get that.
You can't get an F visa and think you're going to cruise along in hagwon mode and strike it rich. An F visa doesn't guarantee you income, it gives you an opportunity to go out there and take income if you want to go after it.
But there is no reason you and your wife should be both killing yourselves to get 6 a month combined. I could only see that if you both had bottom basement hagwon jobs and then tried to add stuff on top of that, which isn't what you should be doing.
You guys should be making 7-8 a month at a normal pace combined.
Get in to an after school that finishes around 5:30, get your wife to start hitting up the smaller hagwons around your area. New classes will be starting the first of march. she should be able to sell a couple on hiring you part time in the evening at 35/hour for 3 hour blocks. You'll have weekends off, and be making plenty. There are also plenty of monday to Friday with 1 saturday a month jobs for Korean teachers that pay 2.5-3 a month, if she wants to expand as well. |
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basic69isokay
Joined: 28 Sep 2014
Location: korea
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Not to totally dismiss the dude who's saying everyone should be making more, but you are speaking in Normative terms. Should, could, would
Everyone else is speaking in positive terms. Am, are, is
You clearly got here before 2008 and there's nothing wrong with that. If not, you're earning more than most based on teaching skills or networking. Which is fine. Good job.
But other people shouldn't be getting dissed for how much they make. |
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GENO123
Joined: 28 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:50 am Post subject: |
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More realistic
2800 from an after school job
+6 hours at a 30K hogwon = 760
2 hours of private teaching on the weekend 320
if the after school pays 3 M that gets you to 4.1 (w/o housing) you don't get to 5 and you certainly don't get to 6M
an internet search will not find blocks of 35K per hour so easily that you can fill up every evening with them . And then even if you found them both your employer and your students would need to be reasonably good.
To do 5 M all the time would require everything to work out well nearly all the time for an extended time with no hang ups or set backs. That is not the way things work with ESL Korea.
The rest is just 과장 and 거품
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saram_
Joined: 13 May 2008
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:00 am Post subject: |
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3.5- 4 mill or over per month is plenty to live on and save for most people I would argue.
If we compare the additional taxes and other bills that we would be paying back in our home countries it is fair to say F Visa holders here can live fairly comfortably generally.
If any have been lucky enough to get into the Jonsei system here then the extra savings that can bring should really add up.
No need to be getting hung up on whether people can make 4/ 5 or 6 million.. |
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