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Jodami
Joined: 08 Feb 2013
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 Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:20 am Post subject: Re: "Korean men don't save money before marriage" |
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
| People love to hate on Korean men. |
I don't think it's hate per se. I think a lot of people find them entertaining for the following reasons:
the average one weighs around 50kgs
wearing unironed shiny suits on a daily basis
every single one of them wears thick black glasses
living at home till they're in their mid 30s-40s
getting pocket money and handouts from parents even in their 30s/40s
mom having to clean their socks and underpants till they move out
sending their gfs over 1000 messages a day
carrying purses
telling how much they love their gfs......then a soju bottle later, planning a special Noraebang/Business Club/Barber Shop visit
Their Korean gfs sleeping with western guys in order to have fun
50 year old guys playing video games on the subway
Losing their virginity to hookers while doing compulsory military duty
Anyone wanna add to the list? These guys amuse me no end.  |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| candy bar wrote: |
Korean men are marrying SE Asians because the foreigners are wedding up the Korean girls. |
The number of international marriages to foreigner non-ethnic Koreans is minuscule next to the numbers of Koreans marrying Koreans and Koreans marrying SE Asians. The main reason Koreans are marrying SE Asians is because they are at the lower-end of the socio-economic totem pole- farmers, factory workers, laborers. Certainly not the types that are getting apartments and BMWs from their parents. That's why multi-culti efforts are often directed into the rural provinces.
Uhm, ripping on Korean men, because they are going to SE Asia for chicks, probably not a good argument if you think it through. Hint- Guys from back home who go to Asia are doing the same thing, often for the same reasons.
| basic69isokay wrote: |
Not the same at all. That means this person is paying for their own education, once repaying the loans. Totally different.
Want to bet this person will probably pay for their own wedding and house too later in life?
Again,not the same at all. There's growing pains involved with becoming a real adult, sure. But its better than avoiding it altogether. |
I think they are avoiding other growing pains. Like, the growing pains of growing up and having discipline. Also, figuring out how to properly function in a multi-generational family household, as well as quality time spent with your parents.
If we want to live in the land of stereotypes- how many of those Asian kids back home/foreign exchange students that led those "boring" college lives now have a job in your field of study, while you are over here working for their uncle?
To paraphrase a bit on "House" 'Moving out into college to smoke a bunch of weed and party doesn't make you a rebel, it makes you a conformist. You want to be a rebel, be like those Asian kids and spend your time in the library studying. They're the real rebels...course they're probably responding to family pressure, but the point still stands...'
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| That said , Id really hate to be a Korean guy. That was my original point. Even with the gender privileges and the spoiled life...to just never do anything on my own, never have any real life experience, successes or failures, that sucks! |
Yeah, as opposed to someone who spends college smoking weed and passing with "Cs" and then goes off to teach kindergartners English.
Plenty of Koreans seem to take a bigger leap and try than NETs here. Look at the sheer number of businesses that open up and close.
| Jodami wrote: |
| Many a former Korean male uni student told me after they graduated that mom still did his laundry, including underpants, socks, etc. |
Now my source was through student journals, you apparently had conversations between men, where topics such as laundry and doing your undies came up?
May I ask how the topic of laundry came up between men over beers?
"It's Chelsea all the way this year. Anyways, so how do you bleach your whites?"
| coralreefer_1 wrote: |
| Yet when I see a bunch of foreign blokes going out of their way to crap on Korean men..it sure appears that way. |
Frankly, it sounds like a bunch of insecure ajosshis. A bunch of stereotype and thinly veiled bigotry, and seemingly motivated by jealousy and inferiority with a racial superiority complex. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| basic69isokay wrote: |
Do you really believe that? Wow, sad.
When stolkholm syndrome goes bad, volume 1 |
The fact that you would equate anything he said to "Stockholm Syndrome" reflects more on you. Stockholm Syndrome applies to people who are held forcibly captive. Do you think that applies to you? If you seriously think it does, then its no wonder you're so miserable and angry at the place. |
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Qonny
Joined: 28 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
Yeah, as opposed to someone who spends college smoking weed and passing with "Cs" and then goes off to teach kindergartners English.
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Did you do it Steelrails? Did you take pot? Did you do alcohol? You disgust me.
People like you give us bad names. You walk around, stinking up the place. Smoking your drugs. Teaching kindergarten. We are sick of it. And I"m sick of you. Just stop it. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
Yeah, as opposed to someone who spends college smoking weed and passing with "Cs" and then goes off to teach kindergartners English.
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Did you do it Steelrails? Did you take pot? Did you do alcohol? You disgust me.
People like you give us bad names. You walk around, stinking up the place. Smoking your drugs. Teaching kindergarten. We are sick of it. And I"m sick of you. Just stop it. |
Nothing wrong with a typical college life and doing ESL. But dont come here talking about how empty Korean lives are compared to ours when one has done little but build an 8 foot bong, backpacked through SE Asia for 2 weeks, and teaches the ABC Song. |
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basic69isokay
Joined: 28 Sep 2014
Location: korea
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| basic69isokay wrote: |
Do you really believe that? Wow, sad.
When stolkholm syndrome goes bad, volume 1 |
The fact that you would equate anything he said to "Stockholm Syndrome" reflects more on you. Stockholm Syndrome applies to people who are held forcibly captive. Do you think that applies to you? If you seriously think it does, then its no wonder you're so miserable and angry at the place. |
No,.I think it applies to him.
Clearly |
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Qonny
Joined: 28 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Qonny wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
Yeah, as opposed to someone who spends college smoking weed and passing with "Cs" and then goes off to teach kindergartners English.
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Did you do it Steelrails? Did you take pot? Did you do alcohol? You disgust me.
People like you give us bad names. You walk around, stinking up the place. Smoking your drugs. Teaching kindergarten. We are sick of it. And I"m sick of you. Just stop it. |
Nothing wrong with a typical college life and doing ESL. But dont come here talking about how empty Korean lives are compared to ours when one has done little but build an 8 foot bong, backpacked through SE Asia for 2 weeks, and teaches the ABC Song. |
If thats what you did.....well I'm disappointed.
Steelrails, you can't bring that attitude to Korea. Koreans won't accept your drugs. They dont like them, at all. Are you doing drugs now? If the answer is yes.....again I would be disappointed.
In my mind I imagined you were a pilot (sometimes a Captain of a ship. Have you seen Captain Phillips??), but I have discovered you enjoy the drugs.
I hope someone else backs me up here, because Steelrails is ruining it for everyone. Drugging himself while teaching kindergraten, to small babies. Also building drug tools and travlleing in South Eatern Asia.
Ew, Steelrails. Ewww. |
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basic69isokay
Joined: 28 Sep 2014
Location: korea
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Somebody get korearails some KIMCHI stat! Hook it to his veins! Before he explodes! |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Qonny wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
Yeah, as opposed to someone who spends college smoking weed and passing with "Cs" and then goes off to teach kindergartners English.
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Did you do it Steelrails? Did you take pot? Did you do alcohol? You disgust me.
People like you give us bad names. You walk around, stinking up the place. Smoking your drugs. Teaching kindergarten. We are sick of it. And I"m sick of you. Just stop it. |
Nothing wrong with a typical college life and doing ESL. But dont come here talking about how empty Korean lives are compared to ours when one has done little but build an 8 foot bong, backpacked through SE Asia for 2 weeks, and teaches the ABC Song. |
Projecting much? |
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Qonny
Joined: 28 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Steelrails
Loves Korea
Korearail
Korail
KTX
Steelrails of the KTX
Steelrails loves to KTX around the place
He takes the KTX to Yongsan then makes his way to Incheon
Incheon International Airport
Korean Air hub
Steelrails on Korean Air
The crazy lady who threw the flight attendent off the plane for handing her bagged macadamia nuts
Steelrails loves nuts (in his mouth!!! lol. Only joking mate. Go on.)
Steelrails supports Korean Air
Steelrails is an ex-fighter pilot (2 tours in desert storm)
Steelrails supports the VP woman who made a fuss about nuts
Steel rails is worse than Hitler. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| candy bar wrote: |
Korean men are marrying SE Asians because the foreigners are wedding up the Korean girls. |
The number of international marriages to foreigner non-ethnic Koreans is minuscule next to the numbers of Koreans marrying Koreans and Koreans marrying SE Asians. The main reason Koreans are marrying SE Asians is because they are at the lower-end of the socio-economic totem pole- farmers, factory workers, laborers. Certainly not the types that are getting apartments and BMWs from their parents. That's why multi-culti efforts are often directed into the rural provinces.
Uhm, ripping on Korean men, because they are going to SE Asia for chicks, probably not a good argument if you think it through. Hint- Guys from back home who go to Asia are doing the same thing, often for the same reasons.
| basic69isokay wrote: |
Not the same at all. That means this person is paying for their own education, once repaying the loans. Totally different.
Want to bet this person will probably pay for their own wedding and house too later in life?
Again,not the same at all. There's growing pains involved with becoming a real adult, sure. But its better than avoiding it altogether. |
I think they are avoiding other growing pains. Like, the growing pains of growing up and having discipline. Also, figuring out how to properly function in a multi-generational family household, as well as quality time spent with your parents.
If we want to live in the land of stereotypes- how many of those Asian kids back home/foreign exchange students that led those "boring" college lives now have a job in your field of study, while you are over here working for their uncle?
To paraphrase a bit on "House" 'Moving out into college to smoke a bunch of weed and party doesn't make you a rebel, it makes you a conformist. You want to be a rebel, be like those Asian kids and spend your time in the library studying. They're the real rebels...course they're probably responding to family pressure, but the point still stands...'
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| That said , Id really hate to be a Korean guy. That was my original point. Even with the gender privileges and the spoiled life...to just never do anything on my own, never have any real life experience, successes or failures, that sucks! |
Yeah, as opposed to someone who spends college smoking weed and passing with "Cs" and then goes off to teach kindergartners English.
Plenty of Koreans seem to take a bigger leap and try than NETs here. Look at the sheer number of businesses that open up and close.
| Jodami wrote: |
| Many a former Korean male uni student told me after they graduated that mom still did his laundry, including underpants, socks, etc. |
Now my source was through student journals, you apparently had conversations between men, where topics such as laundry and doing your undies came up?
May I ask how the topic of laundry came up between men over beers?
"It's Chelsea all the way this year. Anyways, so how do you bleach your whites?"
| coralreefer_1 wrote: |
| Yet when I see a bunch of foreign blokes going out of their way to crap on Korean men..it sure appears that way. |
Frankly, it sounds like a bunch of insecure ajosshis. A bunch of stereotype and thinly veiled bigotry, and seemingly motivated by jealousy and inferiority with a racial superiority complex. |
I can imagine that coming up in a conversation someone was having with you, self-professed expert on just about everything under the sun.
A: What's shakin' sr?
sr: Not much. Been busy doing my laundry. Let me tell you the best way to do it. We've found that using A instead of B and then waiting to Y before Z results in clothes so clean and fresh that Febreze is no longer required.
Then when you dry them,...
But credit where credit is due--it's been a while since you/ve played the race card, so you actually exhibited some self-discipline there. But you still have to give back your apologist anonymous chip. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| basic69isokay wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| basic69isokay wrote: |
Do you really believe that? Wow, sad.
When stolkholm syndrome goes bad, volume 1 |
The fact that you would equate anything he said to "Stockholm Syndrome" reflects more on you. Stockholm Syndrome applies to people who are held forcibly captive. Do you think that applies to you? If you seriously think it does, then its no wonder you're so miserable and angry at the place. |
No,.I think it applies to him.
Clearly |
How is anyone a captive here? How is anyone getting Stockholm Syndromed? At worst you have Koreaboosim, its a disease to be sure, but its a captive cold, not the captive HIV of Stockholm Syndrome.
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Steelrails
Loves Korea
Korearail
Korail
KTX
Steelrails of the KTX
Steelrails loves to KTX around the place
He takes the KTX to Yongsan then makes his way to Incheon
Incheon International Airport
Korean Air hub
Steelrails on Korean Air
The crazy lady who threw the flight attendent off the plane for handing her bagged macadamia nuts
Steelrails loves nuts (in his mouth!!! lol. Only joking mate. Go on.)
Steelrails supports Korean Air
Steelrails is an ex-fighter pilot (2 tours in desert storm)
Steelrails supports the VP woman who made a fuss about nuts
Steel rails is worse than Hitler. |
 Not bad, not too bad at all.
| atwood wrote: |
I can imagine that coming up in a conversation someone was having with you, self-professed expert on just about everything under the sun.
A: What's shakin' sr?
sr: Not much. Been busy doing my laundry. Let me tell you the best way to do it. We've found that using A instead of B and then waiting to Y before Z results in clothes so clean and fresh that Febreze is no longer required.
Then when you dry them,... |
So basically you agree with me that him claiming that he knows his students laundry skill is a crock of crap and that no sane man would normally discuss such things, right? Happy Holidays to you too atwood. |
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wooden nickels
Joined: 23 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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I have a Korean friend, mid 30s, who owns a coffee shop. One day an older lady came in and asked him for a key. I asked my Korean friend who she was. He said it was his mother and that she was asking for the key to his apartment because she had misplaced hers. He said that she goes by his apartment once a week and cleans and does his laundry.
I find it very common for Korean mothers to still be doing these things for their male children until the male children become married. After marriage, the wife takes on the 'mom role.' |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| basic69isokay wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| basic69isokay wrote: |
Do you really believe that? Wow, sad.
When stolkholm syndrome goes bad, volume 1 |
The fact that you would equate anything he said to "Stockholm Syndrome" reflects more on you. Stockholm Syndrome applies to people who are held forcibly captive. Do you think that applies to you? If you seriously think it does, then its no wonder you're so miserable and angry at the place. |
No,.I think it applies to him.
Clearly |
How is anyone a captive here? How is anyone getting Stockholm Syndromed? At worst you have Koreaboosim, its a disease to be sure, but its a captive cold, not the captive HIV of Stockholm Syndrome.
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Steelrails
Loves Korea
Korearail
Korail
KTX
Steelrails of the KTX
Steelrails loves to KTX around the place
He takes the KTX to Yongsan then makes his way to Incheon
Incheon International Airport
Korean Air hub
Steelrails on Korean Air
The crazy lady who threw the flight attendent off the plane for handing her bagged macadamia nuts
Steelrails loves nuts (in his mouth!!! lol. Only joking mate. Go on.)
Steelrails supports Korean Air
Steelrails is an ex-fighter pilot (2 tours in desert storm)
Steelrails supports the VP woman who made a fuss about nuts
Steel rails is worse than Hitler. |
Not bad, not too bad at all.
| atwood wrote: |
I can imagine that coming up in a conversation someone was having with you, self-professed expert on just about everything under the sun.
A: What's shakin' sr?
sr: Not much. Been busy doing my laundry. Let me tell you the best way to do it. We've found that using A instead of B and then waiting to Y before Z results in clothes so clean and fresh that Febreze is no longer required.
Then when you dry them,... |
So basically you agree with me that him claiming that he knows his students laundry skill is a crock of crap and that no sane man would normally discuss such things, right? Happy Holidays to you too atwood. |
You seem to be saying you're insane. I don't think you should be so hard on yourself.
Where do you get your shirts done? seems like a reasonable question from which a laundry conversation could follow. Really, if you think about it, what is there to talk about in Korea?
Other than how you like your nuts served, that is. |
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wooden nickels
Joined: 23 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Whether a sane man would discuss things such as laundry and chores, I can't answer this question. But, it apparently isn't a problem with Koreans. Actually, this topic has been brought up in several of my classes. Usually the topic stems from me knowing how to cook, do laundry, and do other chores that Korean men often consider a women's job. Most all of the adult males who have discussed this topic have told me that they don't know how to do laundry and that their mother or wife has always done it for them. For them, it seems to be as natural as me saying that my mother tied my shoestrings when I was 3 years old. |
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