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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Most all of the adult males who have discussed this topic have told me that they don't know how to do laundry and that their mother or wife has always done it for them. For them, it seems to be as natural as me saying that my mother tied my shoestrings when I was 3 years old. |
I discovered the fact recently that most Korean middle school boys have no idea how to tie their shoelaces. |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I discovered the fact recently that most Korean middle school boys have no idea how to tie their shoelaces. |
You should stop going to the sauna with them. Creepy!  |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:06 am Post subject: |
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I've met more than a few people back home who never knew how to do laundry until they moved out of their parents house. And some who kinda know how to do it, but just leave it to their wives because they do it much better. Sorta like they know how to cook, but it just tastes like crap.
Anyways, I think the 2 years spent freezing your balls off patrolling the DMZ trumps your laundry claim. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:13 am Post subject: |
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I've met more than a few people back home who never knew how to do laundry until they moved out of their parents house. And some who kinda know how to do it, but just leave it to their wives because they do it much better. Sorta like they know how to cook, but it just tastes like crap.
Anyways, I think the 2 years spent freezing your balls off patrolling the DMZ trumps your laundry claim. |
The difference is they moved out at age 18, not 38.
Standing around and hustling your nuts, whether on the DMZ or in front of the local convenience store, ain't nothing to brag about. That's insane. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:05 am Post subject: |
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| Lucas wrote: |
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| I discovered the fact recently that most Korean middle school boys have no idea how to tie their shoelaces. |
You should stop going to the sauna with them. Creepy! |
It was on a school picnic up a mild hike on Seoraksan. I saw a boy ask his homeroom teacher to retie his shoe. I asked about it. She said that was normal.
I noticed that inability to tie a simple knot because it was a mortal embarrassment to me that I was the last among my peers to figure it out. At about age 7. Korean boys dont care.
Lucas commenting on boys in saunas is entirely his own perverted projection. |
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coralreefer_1
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:30 am Post subject: |
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LOL, i find the funniest part of this whole discussion is that the bulk of commenters will/have put something on their resume like "experience overseas" or "cultural understanding"
So the idea here is that Korean men are shameful or otherwise subject to foreigner ridicule because they dont do laundry? or that boys cant tie their shoes? The only people that is a problem for apparently, are foreigners.
Really, if you are a man in this country and can go through the bulk of your life not doing laundry...is that something to be ashemed of, or is it something that reflects the status of that man that he "doesnt have to do that"
Back when I was a teen and early 20's, I lost my drivers license because of some unpaid tickets. For awhile there, I took a taxi everywhere i went. Some people may have jokingly gave me crap for not having a car. I on the other hand looked at it not as something to be ashamed of, but more as a bonus my other friends didnt have. To me, I had the income to have a personal driver, and all I had to do with make a call and wait for a horn blown outside my home..and I would have my own chauffeur to drive me wherever i wanted to go with no worries about what I had drunk..etc etc.
If these men can go through life without having to do things such as dishes or laundry, to me that is a bonus. Who out there gets their jollies doing laundry? If they cant cook and order chicken or eat out everyday because of a lack of knowledge, or unwillingness to cook, that looks to me more like they are enjoying the power/income that allows then to "not" have" to do those things rather than another arrow many seem to enjoy shooting at the local culture, and men in particular.
Yeah, its a bit weird that some of these men cant or wont do such things, but seriously did any of you think you were going to live and work overseas and not meet cultural differences? Many of you may not like to hear this, but even that belligerent 30-something ajussi you think is trash and the epitome of all that is wrong with Korean society has more options to make/generate/secure/provide than the vast majority of people commenting here. You may not like his style, and yeah maybe he didnt save as much as some money-hungry ajummas would have liked, but these men get married every day and seem to be going about their life fairly well despite all the hate.
As I mentioned before, the whole reason the topic was raised was more or less to take a shot at Korean men. Yet I highly doubt more than a handful of people here have saved an amount of money themselves those same ajummas would have considered acceptable at the age of the men we are talking about. Id love to know how many of you here had 100,000 USD or more, saved up sitting in your own accounts with NO help from family/connections, and saved that money all the while working and supporting yourselves 100% alone.
By the way OP, I'd love to hear back from those ajummas and know what they considered a decent amount of money saved for a man to avoid the "he didn't save enough" rap. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:22 am Post subject: |
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LOL, i find the funniest part of this whole discussion is that the bulk of commenters will/have put something on their resume like "experience overseas" or "cultural understanding"
So the idea here is that Korean men are shameful or otherwise subject to foreigner ridicule because they dont do laundry? or that boys cant tie their shoes? The only people that is a problem for apparently, are foreigners.
Really, if you are a man in this country and can go through the bulk of your life not doing laundry...is that something to be ashemed of, or is it something that reflects the status of that man that he "doesnt have to do that"
Back when I was a teen and early 20's, I lost my drivers license because of some unpaid tickets. For awhile there, I took a taxi everywhere i went. Some people may have jokingly gave me crap for not having a car. I on the other hand looked at it not as something to be ashamed of, but more as a bonus my other friends didnt have. To me, I had the income to have a personal driver, and all I had to do with make a call and wait for a horn blown outside my home..and I would have my own chauffeur to drive me wherever i wanted to go with no worries about what I had drunk..etc etc.
If these men can go through life without having to do things such as dishes or laundry, to me that is a bonus. Who out there gets their jollies doing laundry? If they cant cook and order chicken or eat out everyday because of a lack of knowledge, or unwillingness to cook, that looks to me more like they are enjoying the power/income that allows then to "not" have" to do those things rather than another arrow many seem to enjoy shooting at the local culture, and men in particular.
Yeah, its a bit weird that some of these men cant or wont do such things, but seriously did any of you think you were going to live and work overseas and not meet cultural differences? Many of you may not like to hear this, but even that belligerent 30-something ajussi you think is trash and the epitome of all that is wrong with Korean society has more options to make/generate/secure/provide than the vast majority of people commenting here. You may not like his style, and yeah maybe he didnt save as much as some money-hungry ajummas would have liked, but these men get married every day and seem to be going about their life fairly well despite all the hate.
As I mentioned before, the whole reason the topic was raised was more or less to take a shot at Korean men. Yet I highly doubt more than a handful of people here have saved an amount of money themselves those same ajummas would have considered acceptable at the age of the men we are talking about. Id love to know how many of you here had 100,000 USD or more, saved up sitting in your own accounts with NO help from family/connections, and saved that money all the while working and supporting yourselves 100% alone.
By the way OP, I'd love to hear back from those ajummas and know what they considered a decent amount of money saved for a man to avoid the "he didn't save enough" rap. |
You must fit right in here then. You f&*cked up and see it as a good thing. The self-glorification of the clueless. |
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coralreefer_1
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| coralreefer_1 wrote: |
LOL, i find the funniest part of this whole discussion is that the bulk of commenters will/have put something on their resume like "experience overseas" or "cultural understanding"
So the idea here is that Korean men are shameful or otherwise subject to foreigner ridicule because they dont do laundry? or that boys cant tie their shoes? The only people that is a problem for apparently, are foreigners.
Really, if you are a man in this country and can go through the bulk of your life not doing laundry...is that something to be ashemed of, or is it something that reflects the status of that man that he "doesnt have to do that"
Back when I was a teen and early 20's, I lost my drivers license because of some unpaid tickets. For awhile there, I took a taxi everywhere i went. Some people may have jokingly gave me crap for not having a car. I on the other hand looked at it not as something to be ashamed of, but more as a bonus my other friends didnt have. To me, I had the income to have a personal driver, and all I had to do with make a call and wait for a horn blown outside my home..and I would have my own chauffeur to drive me wherever i wanted to go with no worries about what I had drunk..etc etc.
If these men can go through life without having to do things such as dishes or laundry, to me that is a bonus. Who out there gets their jollies doing laundry? If they cant cook and order chicken or eat out everyday because of a lack of knowledge, or unwillingness to cook, that looks to me more like they are enjoying the power/income that allows then to "not" have" to do those things rather than another arrow many seem to enjoy shooting at the local culture, and men in particular.
Yeah, its a bit weird that some of these men cant or wont do such things, but seriously did any of you think you were going to live and work overseas and not meet cultural differences? Many of you may not like to hear this, but even that belligerent 30-something ajussi you think is trash and the epitome of all that is wrong with Korean society has more options to make/generate/secure/provide than the vast majority of people commenting here. You may not like his style, and yeah maybe he didnt save as much as some money-hungry ajummas would have liked, but these men get married every day and seem to be going about their life fairly well despite all the hate.
As I mentioned before, the whole reason the topic was raised was more or less to take a shot at Korean men. Yet I highly doubt more than a handful of people here have saved an amount of money themselves those same ajummas would have considered acceptable at the age of the men we are talking about. Id love to know how many of you here had 100,000 USD or more, saved up sitting in your own accounts with NO help from family/connections, and saved that money all the while working and supporting yourselves 100% alone.
By the way OP, I'd love to hear back from those ajummas and know what they considered a decent amount of money saved for a man to avoid the "he didn't save enough" rap. |
You must fit right in here then. You f&*cked up and see it as a good thing. The self-glorification of the clueless. |
Agreed. Much better for those like yourself that suffer from self-reinforcing delusions to miss the entire point, and jump on the one thing you might have a snide comeback for. rather than admitting that maybe your stance is more in line with hatred, prejudice, and bigotry rather than simply just being a man and admitting that some people do things and live differently than yourself. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Like I've said- many of those "live with mom and dad" Koreans who had the same major as posters here, are working in America doing those jobs, meanwhile the posters are over here working for that kid's uncle's hagwon.
If your powers of independence and critical thinking are so mighty, why are you here teaching the ABC song?
Look, plenty of us here enjoy the job and aren't failures, those people don't seem to raise much of a stink about this kind of thing. But the people who do raise a stink, you have to ask- WHAT MAKES YOU SO GREAT? |
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Jodami
Joined: 08 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:03 am Post subject: |
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Now my source was through student journals, you apparently had conversations between men, where topics such as laundry and doing your undies came up?
May I ask how the topic of laundry came up between men over beers?
"It's Chelsea all the way this year. Anyways, so how do you bleach your whites?"
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I can't exactly remember but I'm almost certain that the Korean guys admitted to having some kind of white underpants fetish.......and it all just took off from there.
Koreans are lazy in general but I'm not at all surprised that you're defending these bone idle guys, who sit around mooching off mom and dad, till their balls eventually drop. |
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Stain
Joined: 08 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:54 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
Now my source was through student journals, you apparently had conversations between men, where topics such as laundry and doing your undies came up?
May I ask how the topic of laundry came up between men over beers?
"It's Chelsea all the way this year. Anyways, so how do you bleach your whites?"
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I can't exactly remember but I'm almost certain that the Korean guys admitted to having some kind of white underpants fetish.......and it all just took off from there.
Koreans are lazy in general but I'm not at all surprised that you're defending these bone idle guys, who sit around mooching off mom and dad, till their balls eventually drop. |
Whoa! Dodge, this is your last account here. Do you really want to go through the hassle of creating another? |
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Jodami
Joined: 08 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:01 am Post subject: |
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| Whoa! Dodge, this is your last account here. Do you really want to go through the hassle of creating another? |
What's with the stalking?
You got the wrong guy.  |
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basic69isokay
Joined: 28 Sep 2014
Location: korea
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:17 am Post subject: |
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It seems they expect jonsae or a house bought for them.
So, depending on location, probably $100-300,000+ |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Like I've said- many of those "live with mom and dad" Koreans who had the same major as posters here, are working in America doing those jobs, meanwhile the posters are over here working for that kid's uncle's hagwon. |
They took our jobs?
They took our JOBS!
Tey tuk rrrr jops! |
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tophatcat
Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Location: under the hat
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:41 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
Like I've said- many of those "live with mom and dad" Koreans who had the same major as posters here, are working in America doing those jobs, meanwhile the posters are over here working for that kid's uncle's hagwon.
If your powers of independence and critical thinking are so mighty, why are you here teaching the ABC song?
Look, plenty of us here enjoy the job and aren't failures, those people don't seem to raise much of a stink about this kind of thing. But the people who do raise a stink, you have to ask- WHAT MAKES YOU SO GREAT? |
It's common that Korean males who move to America live with their uncle and aunt. They work the 12 hour, 7 night per week shift at the uncle's SMILEE MART on the corner in LA. The aunt does their laundry, nasty under ware. After about three years working at the mart, they return home so they can be married and have a son because they will be 39 on their next birthday.
Westerners are out seeing the world, independent and free. |
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