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candy bar
Joined: 03 Dec 2012
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 Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:33 am Post subject: More Smoking Regulations |
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As of 2015/
No smoking in billiards halls and pubs. |
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Wad
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:17 am Post subject: |
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Coffee shops which are currently permitted to have smoking rooms must remove them.
Offices, factory buildings, shopping malls, hotels, auditoriums, and lobbies must be smoke-free
Fines of 100,000 won on any spotted smoker and up to 5 million won on shop owners not following the law. |
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metalhead
Joined: 18 May 2010
Location: Toilet
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:46 am Post subject: |
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| Sounds wild sexist to me - where will all the Korean ladies smoke now? If they smoke on the streets Mr Adjeoshi Man might punch them in the face, so risk~~~~ |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| I wonder if casinos will be exempt? They were in Canada when smoking bans first came into effect there. |
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Jodami
Joined: 08 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:12 am Post subject: |
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Korea is making moves to move into the 21st century. Wow.  |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Wad wrote: |
Coffee shops which are currently permitted to have smoking rooms must remove them.
Offices, factory buildings, shopping malls, hotels, auditoriums, and lobbies must be smoke-free
Fines of 100,000 won on any spotted smoker and up to 5 million won on shop owners not following the law. |
Stupid that the coffee shops must remove the seperate smoking rooms. If it's kept seperate from everyone else, what would be the point? Are they afraid smokers will suffer the effect of second hand smoke or something? Geeze, you use to be allowed to smoke wherever here. Didn't have to deal with anti smoking nazis. I mean crap, I went home for a visit a year ago and you couldn't damn well smoke anywhere. |
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Wad
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| Stupid that the coffee shops must remove the seperate smoking rooms. If it's kept seperate from everyone else, what would be the point? Are they afraid smokers will suffer the effect of second hand smoke or something? Geeze, you use to be allowed to smoke wherever here. Didn't have to deal with anti smoking nazis. I mean crap, I went home for a visit a year ago and you couldn't damn well smoke anywhere. |
I suspect the laws will only become more draconian. I recall reading that somewhere in the States a man was fined for smoking in his car when children were present. |
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Qonny
Joined: 28 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
Stupid that the coffee shops must remove the seperate smoking rooms. If it's kept seperate from everyone else, what would be the point? Are they afraid smokers will suffer the effect of second hand smoke or something? Geeze, you use to be allowed to smoke wherever here. Didn't have to deal with anti smoking nazis. I mean crap, I went home for a visit a year ago and you couldn't damn well smoke anywhere. |
Those smokers rooms don't work very well. If you sit anywhere near them the smoke stink still hits you.
I'm not an anti smoking nazi, but I'm glad that smokers have fewer chances to impose their low class, stinking habit upon me. Feels good man. |
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Wad
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Qonny wrote: |
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I'm not an anti smoking nazi, but I'm glad that smokers have fewer chances to impose their low class, stinking habit upon me... |
Its a good thing you clarified you're not an anti-smoking Nazi, because judging by that remark I would have thought otherwise 
I'm not against people smoking, I just believe that cigarettes should be $1000 a pack and they should have to smoke them 1000 miles from civilization. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Wad wrote: |
| Qonny wrote: |
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I'm not an anti smoking nazi, but I'm glad that smokers have fewer chances to impose their low class, stinking habit upon me... |
Its a good thing you clarified you're not an anti-smoking Nazi, because judging by that remark I would have thought otherwise
I'm not against people smoking, I just believe that cigarettes should be $1000 a pack and they should have to smoke them 1000 miles from civilization. |
Yes, regulate an addictive drug into the underground. Totally no chance for that to turn out badly, based on history.
People should be able to smoke in private establishments that permit it. I can understand certain time restrictions. But not for bars and greasy spoons serving fried food and soju at 11PM. If you dont like it, eat or drink somewhere else. Im for banning smoking in apartments (unless its a smokers only apartment).
No one is forced to go into a smoking bar. No one. |
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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Wad wrote: |
| Qonny wrote: |
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I'm not an anti smoking nazi, but I'm glad that smokers have fewer chances to impose their low class, stinking habit upon me... |
Its a good thing you clarified you're not an anti-smoking Nazi, because judging by that remark I would have thought otherwise
I'm not against people smoking, I just believe that cigarettes should be $1000 a pack and they should have to smoke them 1000 miles from civilization. |
Yes, regulate an addictive drug into the underground. Totally no chance for that to turn out badly, based on history.
People should be able to smoke in private establishments that permit it. I can understand certain time restrictions. But not for bars and greasy spoons serving fried food and soju at 11PM. If you dont like it, eat or drink somewhere else. Im for banning smoking in apartments (unless its a smokers only apartment).
No one is forced to go into a smoking bar. No one. |
Here come the replies:
What if that bar was the only place in a 100 mile radius serving food and a nonsmoking asthmatic was dying of starvation, then they would have to go to that bar. It's not fair. |
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Sister Ray
Joined: 25 Mar 2006
Location: Fukuoka
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
Yes, regulate an addictive drug into the underground. Totally no chance for that to turn out badly, based on history.
No one is forced to go into a smoking bar. No one. |
So, by your logic Seoul should also provide smack shooting bars?
No one is forced to go into a shooting bar. No one.
From past discussions, I know you to be a prohibitionist. What's with the double standard with the ciggies? |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Sister Ray wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
Yes, regulate an addictive drug into the underground. Totally no chance for that to turn out badly, based on history.
No one is forced to go into a smoking bar. No one. |
So, by your logic Seoul should also provide smack shooting bars?
No one is forced to go into a shooting bar. No one.
From past discussions, I know you to be a prohibitionist. What's with the double standard with the ciggies? |
Nope, when it comes to the US, I am 100% against the criminalization of many drugs (meth, heroin, crack, and others, maybe not). I am against potheads who come on and are like "Koreans NEED weed mannnn". Its one thing to be against it being illegal. Its another to actively endorse its use.
Im also speaking in a general sense. Of course Korea can enact the laws it sees fit and they might have good reasons, but as a general principle, I am against them. Reasonable bans are fine. But bans in bars and other 'places of the night' like pool halls, are ridiculous. |
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Sister Ray
Joined: 25 Mar 2006
Location: Fukuoka
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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But the sole argument you provided for the continued tolerance for smoking in bars was that no one is forced to go these places.
Opiates and nicotine are very similar drugs i.e. horrendously addictive and deleterious to one's health.
If nobody were forced to go to a shooting gallery in a "place of the night" why is total opiate prohibition "reasonable" but a few restrictions on where one can smoke tobacco some egregious violation of personal sovereignty?
Doesn't seem logically consistent to me. |
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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Sister Ray wrote: |
But the sole argument you provided for the continued tolerance for smoking in bars was that no one is forced to go these places.
Opiates and nicotine are very similar drugs i.e. horrendously addictive and deleterious to one's health.
If nobody were forced to go to a shooting gallery in a "place of the night" why is total opiate prohibition "reasonable" but a few restrictions on where one can smoke tobacco some egregious violation of personal sovereignty?
Doesn't seem logically consistent to me. |
Legalization issues based on harm are another matter. If you want nicotine to be illegal take it up with you congressman. For now it's legal and business owners should be able to freely cater to this legal activity. |
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