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Sheldon Adelson Says Obama Should Nuke Iran
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Titus wrote:


Then Israel will simply attack US forces, soil and citizens (dressed as Arabs or Iranians) and Sheldon will keep his money. Israeli cousins in the media will say it is a conspiracy theory and we'll all pretend that all is solid.

You must be referring to the conspiracy theory that the Israelis downed the twin towers. There's a few people that believe that, not many that are rational. Many of the individuals that hijacked the planes were Saudi. The Jewish and Israeli lobby is fine, Saudis go away.

I don't think Iranians should be allowed to have nuclear weapons or possess any nuclear materials at all. If the Israelis preemptively strike Iran or any other Arabs, no skin of my back for sure. Send them back to the days of camels, no problem there.
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catman



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In other news I see Michelle Bachmann told Obama at a Christmas Party that they must bomb Iran now before its too late. Rolling Eyes
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young_clinton



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't agree with Michelle Bachman but the fact of the matter is those people cannot get nuclear weapons. Would you like a nuclear option to be in the hands of an Imam in Iran? They're nuts. A nuclear attack on Iran is not particularly an option, but there are options to consider in this case.
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catman



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
I don't agree with Michelle Bachman but the fact of the matter is those people cannot get nuclear weapons. Would you like a nuclear option to be in the hands of an Imam in Iran? They're nuts. A nuclear attack on Iran is not particularly an option, but there are options to consider in this case.


No I would not. I would like to see the Middle East to be nuclear free.

In the meantime there is no evidence that Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons.
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Plain Meaning



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
I don't agree with Michelle Bachman but the fact of the matter is those people cannot get nuclear weapons. Would you like a nuclear option to be in the hands of an Imam in Iran? They're nuts. A nuclear attack on Iran is not particularly an option, but there are options to consider in this case.


I also do not trust the United States gov't with nuclear weapons.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/20/usaf-atomic-bomb-north-carolina-1961

http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/21/4755600/us-atomic-bomb-north-carolina-accident-1961

Nuclear Weapon Close-call listicle

catman wrote:

In the meantime there is no evidence that Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons.


Yes, but you have to admit that if you repeat a fearsome possibility enough it starts to become fearsome regardless of the likelihood of it coming to pass.
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sirius black



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iran is NOT going to use a nuke arbitrarily or offensively if it gets one. Countries get a nuke or one reason and one reason only. Its insurance against a land/sea invasion. Pakistan hasn't nuked India. North Korea hasn't nuked South Korea. Why, the same reasons America and the USSR haven't. M.A.D.. theory. The ayatollahs in Iran aren't suicidal. Nowadays, the technology is good enough to trace any uranium to the source country, hell, to the exact plant it was made. Iran is surrounded by American bases as well as the waters outside their territory. Israel has nukes and has been instigating America to arbitrarily attack them. The Saudis want Iran checked. In fact, nex to the Israelis, Saudi fears Iran the most. Again, countries acquire nukes as insurance NOT to attack.
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GENO123



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sirius black wrote:
Iran is NOT going to use a nuke arbitrarily or offensively if it gets one. Countries get a nuke or one reason and one reason only. Its insurance against a land/sea invasion. Pakistan hasn't nuked India. North Korea hasn't nuked South Korea. Why, the same reasons America and the USSR haven't. M.A.D.. theory. The ayatollahs in Iran aren't suicidal. Nowadays, the technology is good enough to trace any uranium to the source country, hell, to the exact plant it was made. Iran is surrounded by American bases as well as the waters outside their territory. Israel has nukes and has been instigating America to arbitrarily attack them. The Saudis want Iran checked. In fact, nex to the Israelis, Saudi fears Iran the most. Again, countries acquire nukes as insurance NOT to attack.



or allow themselves to be able to attack without getting hit for it.

NK uses nuclear weapons to shield itself from being held to account for all the bad stuff it does. Like when it sunk a South Korean navel vessel.


Countries acquire nukes so they CAN ATTACK.
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheldon Adelson will bankroll the Trump Campaign

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Conservative and big-money allies of Donald Trump are laying the groundwork for him to visit Israel this summer, an idea backed by Republican mega-donor Sheldon Adelson, who recently indicated in a meeting with the candidate that he would provide about $100m to help Trump win the presidency, conservative sources have told the Guardian.
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young_clinton



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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

geldedgoat wrote:
Mandatory military service for all (perhaps police service for those with extreme physical handicap or religious/moral reservations about military service). Tack on passing a basic IQ test as a further requirement for voting rights, and we'd be well on our way to having a functional republic once again.


Of all the military personal only 10% ever see combat. Some military personal are probably even under safer conditions than I am. I don't think that all veterans are heroes or have in particular offered their lives for their country. I don't see anything special about veterans. Also keep in mind that military and the police don't produce anything for the economy or the immediate needs of the public, so why are they so special as to be in a wise society the only ones that should be allowed to vote?

I know of a veteran that is a friend of a friend that is the biggest sponge of all time. Heavy thousands of dollars dole check from the government every month, has a house - I don't and I have to work - glorifies his IQ (presumably higher than everyone else's) and has been working on how to receive this big paycheck all his life. There's nothing special about this guy, and perhaps veterans in general.
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The (racist?) U.S. couldn't resist nuking Japan even when there was clear evidence that it wasn't militarily necessary ... http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-05-27/its-time-to-confront-painful-truths-about-using-the-atomic-bombs-on-japan
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