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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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 Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:24 am Post subject: |
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One thing no one addressed from the OP is where do those numbers came from? I don't really see any citations or links.
I seem to recall a couple years ago someone was bandying about that website that listed the amount of sex workers/etc in various countries all around the world (one of those agenda driven sites) that had Korea listed with a really big number and their source was some random article, which when the writer of that article was pressed to back up the number or where they got it, it was clear they'd just pulled it out of their ass.
I think that was the one that started the whole 1/4 korean women were involved in sex work or something like that story. |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:36 am Post subject: |
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| You are probably right. There is so many BS statistics out there on the internet. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
Why not 'a staggering 11% after only 7 years of marriage"?
An agenda perhaps? |
"About 60 percent of all marriages that eventually end in divorce do so within the first 10 years, researchers say."
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/19/health/19divo.html?_r=0
"A false conclusion in the 1970s that half of all first marriages ended in divorce was based on the simple but completely wrong analysis of the marriage and divorce rates per 1,000 people in the United States."
"It is now clear that the divorce rate in first marriages probably peaked at about 40 percent for first marriages around 1980 and has been declining since to about 30 percent in the early 2000s."
"Research shows that starting in the 1980s education, specifically a college degree for women, began to create a substantial divergence in marital outcomes, with the divorce rate for college-educated women dropping to about 20 percent, half the rate for non-college educated women."
"Women who marry younger and divorce more frequently are predominately black and Hispanic women from poorer environments. The highest divorce rate, exceeding 50 percent, is for black women in high-poverty areas."
http://psychcentral.com/lib/the-myth-of-the-high-rate-of-divorce/00011473?all=1 |
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
| BUT...you're less likely to catch HIV/herpes/genital warts/gonorrhea/chlamydia/syphilis/etc from a girlfriend or wife. (Treating that can be quite expensive.) |
Half a million people in the UK may disagree with you, assuming of course that they are not all frequenting prostitutes.
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-22766090 |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Do the math. That's 1 in 143. (Not that many.)
Prostitutes are far more likely to have STIs.
Fortunately, most Brits aren't visiting prostitutes. (Only a small percentage.)
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One in 10 British men say they have paid for sex, according to a new study.
In addition, 3.6% of the 6,000 men surveyed admitted going to prostitutes in the past five years. |
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Men who paid for sex were more than twice as likely as average men to have been diagnosed with a sexually transmitted infection in the past five years.
Men who used prostitutes made up 15.6% of all reported STI diagnoses in male population. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| chopstick wrote: |
in some cases yes, but in others it might be that you wish your daughter would do a different job. much like if she worked in Family Mart, you might prefer her to be a teacher as the working conditions and money are better.
i don't think it's a great idea to be going to the brothel but i can't get indignant about what people choose to do willingly.
i suppose that takes you to the people trafficing argument and how there is no choice in that. but the best way to avoid that is legalisation and regulation.
the overall point is prohibition solves very little and creates problems. |
Working at Family Mart is at least an honest days work. You may wish your daughter to do soething mroe. But, as a parent, you are greatful she isn't selling her body and taking the easy and lazy way out. I hardly think you can compare the two.
As for arguements for it, it seems politcal correctness kills off common sense and results in the loss of more brain cells every year. I don't even care if there were legal or semi legal brothers and hookers on the edge of town. But what we shouldn't be doing is saying it's ok and it's your body and blah blah. I'm not on a moral crusade. But, if we speak in favor of this like it's nothing and "open mindedness" becomes the great scam of our time, then today's little girls will soon think there's nothing wrong with growing up to become hookers, strippers, porn stars, etc.
As I said, if you took a small percentage of the population and put them off to the side and didn't harass them and they did their things in brothels off to the edge of town, it may contain some of this and control deisease ect.
As for the issue as a whole, political correctness and "open mindedness" cause many folks to be afraid to say what they really mean and really think. Anyone who wants their daughter to grow up to be a prositute is a dolt and should have their child taken away, period! |
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
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| Men who used prostitutes made up 15.6% of all reported STI diagnoses in male population. |
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I'll freely admit that maths is not my strong point, but does that mean that the remaining 84.4% got an STI from a woman who wasn't a prostitute? If so, surely sleeping with a non-prostitute can be seen as somewhat risky too? |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Well, only 3.6% of Brits had been to a prostitute within the past five years. It's a very small proportion of the population. That population was far more likely to have an STI. Doing a prostitute is far more risky than doing a non-prostitute.
Johns who get an STI from a prostitute often spread it to non-prostitutes who then spread it non-johns.
The differences is, prostitutes have been penetrated by hundreds of sketchy guys, and as a consequence are often carrying multiple STIs. |
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joelove
Joined: 12 May 2011
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
Prostitution is disgusting.
It's not psychologically healthy to be a prostitute or john.
It's not safe either. (STDs, risk of arrest, risk of violence, risk of theft, etc.)
It's better to stay away from brothels.
Spending money for sex with prostitutes is pathetic and sad.
Don't do it. |
Who are you talking to here? Yourself? For a world traveler you have an odd world view. What is disgusting about it? Why is it psychologically unhealthy? Why is it pathetic and sad? Because you say so?
Sorry, man, you are not changing a thing with a post on Dave's. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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The same would apply to you then, so why would you waste your time responding? (>_~)
(You sound rather defensive.)
Most Westerners oppose prostitution. (That's why it's illegal).
Would you tell others you visit prostitutes? Probably not (if you are smart). Why not? It's not something to be proud of; it's something to be ashamed of. Others (especially Westerners) will generally look down on you if you tell them you visit brothels.
The prostitute is someone's daughter and someone's sister.
You could be indirectly supporting human trafficking and/or organized crime.
Not a good thing to do. It can cause yourself and others heartache and pain. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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In Britain:
Public acceptability of both buying and selling sex drops off when people consider that the buyer or seller is a relation. For example, two in five (39%) feel that it is very or fairly acceptable for a man to purchase sex with a woman, and more than half (52%) find this very or fairly unacceptable. However, when the question asks "Please imagine that the man purchasing sex is related to you, for example your brother, son or father. In this case would it be acceptable or unacceptable?", acceptability drops to 10 points 29% and unacceptability increases 10 points to 62%.
Similarly, while 38% of the public feel it is acceptable for a woman to sell sex to a man (and 53% find it unacceptable), these figures shift to 22% acceptable and 69% unacceptable when respondents were asked "to imagine that the woman selling sex is related to you, for example your sister, mother or daughter". |
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
Would you tell others you visit prostitutes? Probably not (if you are smart). Why not? It's not something to be proud of; it's something to be ashamed of. |
What about the disabled? For example, men who are confined to wheelchairs but desire to have sex. When they visit prostitutes, should they be ashamed of it and have to put up with people looking down on them? |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| joelove wrote: |
| World Traveler wrote: |
Prostitution is disgusting.
It's not psychologically healthy to be a prostitute or john.
It's not safe either. (STDs, risk of arrest, risk of violence, risk of theft, etc.)
It's better to stay away from brothels.
Spending money for sex with prostitutes is pathetic and sad.
Don't do it. |
Who are you talking to here? Yourself? For a world traveler you have an odd world view. What is disgusting about it? Why is it psychologically unhealthy? Why is it pathetic and sad? Because you say so?
Sorry, man, you are not changing a thing with a post on Dave's. |
it's funny to hear other people tell weird rambler that he has such a narrow mind that betrays his screen name. i said the very same thing myself when he first appeared on these boards.
and wt, the risk of violence and std's exist with any sexually active person, prostitute or not. anytime you get involved with affairs that are of the heart you will raise the risk of emotional issues. plus you are speaking as an american as par for the course. risk of arrest? yes, in countries that demonize it. in other countries, like sweden, it's legal and has actually made the occupation as safe as most other professions. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| std's exist with any sexually active person, prostitute or not. |
Same same? Not really.
Data were available for 14 Asian countries. Whereas HIV prevalence in women aged 15-49 in these countries is 0.18%, for sex workers it is 5.2%, meaning their risk of having HIV is 29 times greater.
http://www.aidsmap.com/Female-sex-workers-have-14-times-the-risk-of-having-HIV-as-other-women/page/2457223/
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| plus you are speaking as an american as par for the course. |
That's right. Americans are incapable of critical thought. Which is why the United States is such a poor country that doesn't invent anything with its universities considered to be the absolute worst on the face of the earth. 'Merica iz teh suxzors!!!!!11
| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| risk of arrest? yes, in countries that demonize it. in other countries, like sweden, it's legal and has actually made the occupation as safe as most other professions. |
As safe as most other professions? Doing sketchy guys with sketchy pimps/brothel owners around doesn't sound very safe. Plus one is being exposed to STIs. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| tiger fancini wrote: |
| What about the disabled? For example, men who are confined to wheelchairs but desire to have sex. When they visit prostitutes, should they be ashamed of it and have to put up with people looking down on them? |
Maybe the wheelchair guy can date a wheelchair girl. (How would he get to the third floor or basement of a rundown building anyways; it's not like those places are handicap accessible.) That's much better than spending his limited money on sex with a hooker.
As for the posters in this thread so repulsive to women they have to pay them to get within ten feet, they would do well to work on improving their personality (learn to develop better social skills) and appearance (work out and eat healthier to look more attractive). |
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