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wishfullthinkng
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the even sadder reality is that the usa is thinking about making tighter sanctions on north korea which will only hurt the common person. kim jong un will still be as fat and ghastly as ever.
the UN just needs to form a strike team and take out the north korean government in one fell swoop. |
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Stan Rogers
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| Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:02 am Post subject: |
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| I wonder what the "proportional response" will be. |
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Shimokitazawa
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Does anyone really believe that it was the North Koreans that hacked SONY? Apparently, the hackers say that they have a Christmas present coming that will make SONY very uncomfortable.
They must have a ton of dirt on executives and staff. |
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Shimokitazawa
Joined: 14 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:26 am Post subject: |
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| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| the UN just needs to form a strike team and take out the north korean government in one fell swoop. |
I always thought that would be the best way to deal with the Kim family. Just eliminate them and watch the country crumble. Or would another thug just slide into the leadership role?
But, even though the Kims and their henchmen are monsters, it's probably not a good idea to make a comedy about assassinating a living person.
Have there been movies made where Obama or the British Prime Minster, Canadian Prime Minister were assassinated?
ALso, I've always thought that it strange that young Kim spent so many years abroad being educated in schools in Switzerland and France and yet he's such a monster. Unless he's not really in control and it's other monsters doing the killing there.
You'd think that the experience abroad and interacting with people from other countries and cultures would have had a huge impact on this thinking and how he would run the country. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Shimokitazawa wrote: |
ALso, I've always thought that it strange that young Kim spent so many years abroad being educated in schools in Switzerland and France and yet he's such a monster. Unless he's not really in control and it's other monsters doing the killing there.
You'd think that the experience abroad and interacting with people from other countries and cultures would have had a huge impact on this thinking and how he would run the country. |
One cannot help but think of Bashar Assad as well in this case. People think Assad is a monster, but if you look into his history, that's not who he was raised to be. He was raised to be a doctor. His brother would run the country. Assad would do things like run the Health care, make charity appearances and attend swanky dinner parties in London and push for trade deals and the like. Then his brother dies and the fate of his country is thrust upon him. Also thrust upon him is the very real knowledge that any misstep or sign of weakness will probably result in him and his family getting a bullet in the brain. Really similar to Kim.
Why is he such a monster??? Because when its kill or be killed, you kill. You're either predator or prey. |
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jvalmer
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| Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Anything NK does they like admitting to it, and broadcasting it on state-media with that ultra-sexy mono-toned anchorwoman. That is why I don't think NK is behind this, and even Sony and the FBI have said there is no evidence NK is behind the hacking. |
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Stan Rogers
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jvalmer
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Yes, believe if you want. From the same people that just last week said some 17 year-old made 70 million dollars. Or that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
North Korea is not taking credit for it, and is even in full denial. If they did it they'd be claiming how amazing their hackers are and that North Korea is so powerful to bring some Japanese company, and US interests to their knees.
Also wonder if there are any high-quality rips floating around for the movie. |
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cam83
Joined: 27 Jan 2013
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:46 am Post subject: |
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WTF were they even thinking? Like who seriously thought it would be a good idea to make a movie about the assassination of a dictator while they're still alive?
Could you imagine if North Korea (or any country) decided to make a movie about assassinating Obama for sh!ts and giggles?! Heads would roll and people would be screaming "terrorists!" "threat!"
Then you have these simple minded fvckers who are all "freedom is dead! The terrorists have won. America is losing it's power because I won't get to see the funny man make jokes about Koreans. RIP America".
As for the fvcktards who got angry about it not being released - they are not even angry bc of freedom of speech or some sh!t, ppl aren't even angry bc NK is a dictatorship... ppl in the US generally don't give a sh!t about NK or it's ppl.
They are angry about it being pulled bc in their arrogance and self-righteousness they think that US mass media has the right to dehumanise and make light of the suffering of an entire nation.
Most westerners I know, know jack sh!t about the Koreas... like if I went around telling ppl I lived in Korea, they'd be asking "which one?" or "is that the good one or the bad one?".
I honestly need to read up more about the history of US/Korea though bc I'm not educated enough on the subject to debate the topic in depth but am I wrong in thinking that the US was partially responsible (during the Cold War) for North Korea being the way it is today? |
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young_clinton
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:49 am Post subject: |
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| cam83 wrote: |
I honestly need to read up more about the history of US/Korea though bc I'm not educated enough on the subject to debate the topic in depth but am I wrong in thinking that the US was partially responsible (during the Cold War) for North Korea being the way it is today? |
I assume by insisting that totalitarian dictators are not Ok? Or perhaps by thinking just don't give to many arms to the south and maybe a nutjob like Kim Il Sung won't take advantage of it. |
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cam83
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| cam83 wrote: |
I honestly need to read up more about the history of US/Korea though bc I'm not educated enough on the subject to debate the topic in depth but am I wrong in thinking that the US was partially responsible (during the Cold War) for North Korea being the way it is today? |
I assume by insisting that totalitarian dictators are not Ok? Or perhaps by thinking just don't give to many arms to the south and maybe a nutjob like Kim Il Sung won't take advantage of it. |
"The division of Korea in August 1945 was a practical response to the situation in East Asia at the end of the Second World War. The USSR had entered the war against Japan a week previously, and Soviet troops were marching south through Japanese-controlled Korea when news came of Japan’s surrender. Japan’s defeat had occurred sooner than anticipated by the US command, which did not yet have troops in Korea, so in order to prevent the USSR from seizing control of the whole country (as had recently happened in Eastern Europe), it was agreed that the Soviets and the Americans would divide Korea between them. Two US colonels were given half an hour with a map and a ruler, and decided on the 38th parallel as it gave the US control of the capital, Seoul, and was already printed on most maps of Korea."
"The line cut across a thousand years of Korea’s history as a unified nation. It also ran counter to economic logic, as the resulting halves were interdependent; industry was concentrated in the north, while the south was predominantly given over to agriculture. Most importantly, the division flew in the face of the wishes of the Korean population."
"An opportunity to build consensus across the political divide was lost in 1945 when the US refused to work with the Korean People’s Republic (KPR), a coalition of parties which included rightists, moderates, and Communists, all keen to provide a united front so that government could be passed into Korean hands. However, the US was determined that Korea should be prepared for independence via a long trusteeship, principally to ensure that Communism would not take root. The KPR declined to accept American authority, claiming that it was the official government, and as a result it was first ignored and then outlawed by the American Military Government."
"Thus it was that, under US and Soviet control, Korea was transformed from a single nation with political fissures running horizontally through society, into a peninsula with a vertical polarisation between North and South. This suited both the US and the USSR within the context of the Cold War, and as Adrian Buzo has written: ‘… their policies derived from the nature of their mission: they were occupying powers, not nation builders.’"
http://www.historytoday.com/rowena-hammal/destined-fail-how-division-korea-led-korean-war-0[url][/url][/quote] |
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Stan Rogers
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 5:18 am Post subject: |
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| cam83 wrote: |
WTF were they even thinking? Like who seriously thought it would be a good idea to make a movie about the assassination of a dictator while they're still alive?
Could you imagine if North Korea (or any country) decided to make a movie about assassinating Obama for sh!ts and giggles?! Heads would roll and people would be screaming "terrorists!" "threat!"
Then you have these simple minded fvckers who are all "freedom is dead! The terrorists have won. America is losing it's power because I won't get to see the funny man make jokes about Koreans. RIP America".
As for the fvcktards who got angry about it not being released - they are not even angry bc of freedom of speech or some sh!t, ppl aren't even angry bc NK is a dictatorship... ppl in the US generally don't give a sh!t about NK or it's ppl.
They are angry about it being pulled bc in their arrogance and self-righteousness they think that US mass media has the right to dehumanise and make light of the suffering of an entire nation.
Most westerners I know, know jack sh!t about the Koreas... like if I went around telling ppl I lived in Korea, they'd be asking "which one?" or "is that the good one or the bad one?".
I honestly need to read up more about the history of US/Korea though bc I'm not educated enough on the subject to debate the topic in depth but am I wrong in thinking that the US was partially responsible (during the Cold War) for North Korea being the way it is today? |
Dude it's just a movie. It's fiction! It's not a documentary or a war plan. Chill out. Nobody gives a shit what we think. I thought the movie would be funny and some asshole doesn't want me to see it because he doesn't like it. F him. If he doesn't like it he doesn't have to go see it. I like my shits and giggles. |
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cam83
Joined: 27 Jan 2013
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:14 am Post subject: |
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WTF were they even thinking? Like who seriously thought it would be a good idea to make a movie about the assassination of a dictator while they're still alive?
Could you imagine if North Korea (or any country) decided to make a movie about assassinating Obama for sh!ts and giggles?! Heads would roll and people would be screaming "terrorists!" "threat!"
Then you have these simple minded fvckers who are all "freedom is dead! The terrorists have won. America is losing it's power because I won't get to see the funny man make jokes about Koreans. RIP America".
As for the fvcktards who got angry about it not being released - they are not even angry bc of freedom of speech or some sh!t, ppl aren't even angry bc NK is a dictatorship... ppl in the US generally don't give a sh!t about NK or it's ppl.
They are angry about it being pulled bc in their arrogance and self-righteousness they think that US mass media has the right to dehumanise and make light of the suffering of an entire nation.
Most westerners I know, know jack sh!t about the Koreas... like if I went around telling ppl I lived in Korea, they'd be asking "which one?" or "is that the good one or the bad one?".
I honestly need to read up more about the history of US/Korea though bc I'm not educated enough on the subject to debate the topic in depth but am I wrong in thinking that the US was partially responsible (during the Cold War) for North Korea being the way it is today? |
Dude it's just a movie. It's fiction! It's not a documentary or a war plan. Chill out. Nobody gives a shit what we think. I thought the movie would be funny and some asshole doesn't want me to see it because he doesn't like it. F him. If he doesn't like it he doesn't have to go see it. I like my shits and giggles. |
Hahaha! Dry your eyes and re-read what you just wrote. Ironic AF  |
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Qonny
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:32 am Post subject: |
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| cam83 wrote: |
Could you imagine if North Korea (or any country) decided to make a movie about assassinating Obama for sh!ts and giggles?! |
I would be surprised if NK has never made a movie in which a US president was assassinated. Seeing as how americans are portrayed as baby eating imperialist dogs. And what about in Hot Shots when Saddam got a bomb dropped on top of him. Im sure there are other examples.
No one watches North Korean movies so i dont think anyone is going to give a shit about killing Obama on film. |
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cam83
Joined: 27 Jan 2013
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| Qonny wrote: |
| cam83 wrote: |
Could you imagine if North Korea (or any country) decided to make a movie about assassinating Obama for sh!ts and giggles?! |
I would be surprised if NK has never made a movie in which a US president was assassinated. Seeing as how americans are portrayed as baby eating imperialist dogs. And what about in Hot Shots when Saddam got a bomb dropped on top of him. Im sure there are other examples.
No one watches North Korean movies so i dont think anyone is going to give a shit about killing Obama on film. |
True. But my point was that I honestly can't see ANY country even considering making that movie about killing Obama... maybe I'm wrong but if this movie was the same (plot, actors etc) but based on the US, would ppl still think it was hilarious and go watch it anyway?!
Sorry I didn't quite get what you meant by the Hot Shots example... I don't recall Hot Shots with great detail but it was just that one scene and not the entire movie right? Did you mean that it's bc previous movies were made? |
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