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Old Painless
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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I watched 11 black business owners with tears welling up in their eyes tell their stories tonight. Stories of how they saved their money for years to open their business. How they begged and borrowed to get off the ground again after the FIRST riots six months ago, and will never recover from this loss, even with insurance. The amount of hard work, blood and sweat they described would move any sane person (that works for a living) to tears. And yet somehow they're insignificant because they had something and 100% of the rioting protesters didn't. Until they looted.
Their stories reminded me of the countless Korean merchants that made the move from Korea to the U.S., only to be terrorized by inner-city black crime. Where are their voices? Somehow I think Koreans identify a hell of a lot more with these victims than the thugs that think they can break the law and walk away. You know what? I bet some Koreans saw what happened, and are damned glad that one more thug is off the streets for good.
(Garner NYC 31 arrests, FELON)
(Brown, strong arm robbery).
I have to back up Guavashake about the Koreans that owned businesses as well. I saw it with my own eyes.
Steelrails is right too. Koreans remember the LA riots, they know how bad it was, even though most of these "ESL protesters" were still in diapers in 1990. |
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kingplaya4
Joined: 14 May 2006
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| Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:38 am Post subject: |
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| Korea would be wisest to keep the country as Korean as possible and then they won't have to worry about things like Ferguson. |
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Old Painless
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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Scorpion
Joined: 15 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| kingplaya4 wrote: |
| Korea would be wisest to keep the country as Korean as possible and then they won't have to worry about things like Ferguson. |
Yeah, because Koreans across the peninsula, and from top to bottom, are getting along famously. Can't have rascally foreigners messing with the harmony of the pure han.
And yeah, Koreans would never think of rioting.  |
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kingplaya4
Joined: 14 May 2006
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| Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| Ok, smart aleck. You walk through Ferguson late at night, I'll stick with Seoul. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| Old Painless wrote: |
I watched 11 black business owners with tears welling up in their eyes tell their stories tonight. Stories of how they saved their money for years to open their business. How they begged and borrowed to get off the ground again after the FIRST riots six months ago, and will never recover from this loss, even with insurance. The amount of hard work, blood and sweat they described would move any sane person (that works for a living) to tears. And yet somehow they're insignificant because they had something and 100% of the rioting protesters didn't. Until they looted.
Their stories reminded me of the countless Korean merchants that made the move from Korea to the U.S., only to be terrorized by inner-city black crime. Where are their voices? Somehow I think Koreans identify a hell of a lot more with these victims than the thugs that think they can break the law and walk away. You know what? I bet some Koreans saw what happened, and are damned glad that one more thug is off the streets for good.
(Garner NYC 31 arrests, FELON)
(Brown, strong arm robbery).
I have to back up Guavashake about the Koreans that owned businesses as well. I saw it with my own eyes.
Steelrails is right too. Koreans remember the LA riots, they know how bad it was, even though most of these "ESL protesters" were still in diapers in 1990. |
Anecdotally, I live in a Korean community in the States that came about explicitly because of the LA riots. Koreans discovered Atlanta after '92 while searching for a place where they could insulate themselves from depredation. They moved here, live in gated communities, and make damn sure that their businesses aren't anywhere near public transportation (or black people).
That said, chatting with folks about this, including ajossis and ajummas, I've seen a lot of head shaking about police in general. Again, this is anecdote, but these folks still have the innate Korean skepticism of the wisdom of having guns everywhere, combined with a wariness of police which is probably tied in part to the fact that half the folks here are illegal. I thought that they'd probably be more in favor of the officer, but in my discussions with the people I know, of varying ages, their opinions seem to largely mirror my own - that while Wilson probably shouldn't have been indicted, the police have been really stupid throughout this entire process. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Apparently, all that rioting, burning, and looting in Ferguson should be a wake up call to Korea.
"The recent riots in Ferguson, Mo., can be taken as a wake-up call to Korea where many would testify discrimination against black people runs deep and it is on full display at places such as 'hagwon' or language institutes."
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2014/12/116_169350.html
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| "Asking for photos is a screening device. I think schools have a definite image they want, which is attractive, white, and usually female. It's the parents that usually cause the problems. As justification, they often say that colored people will scare the children. In my experience, the children never have a problem. It's the adults that make the hiring decisions though." |
See, here's some foreigner myopia on display. Do they think that the only jobs in Korea requesting photos are for foreign teachers? Do they not realize that every job in Korea requires putting your photo on your resume, and that Korean firms carry this practice over to the States? This isn't a case of persecuting any particular group, it's a case of Korea doing a piss poor job across the board of protecting workers' rights. |
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ghostrider
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Saudi have got it right when it comes to shop lifting - cut off a hand!
(assuming they have two in the first place).
See what happens to the petty crime rate then!
The UK is overrun by petty shoplifting, mainly to feed drug and alcohol habits.
The police are too busy to deal with it. You have cases of shoplifters who have been convicted 50-60-100 times not even getting jail time.
Then you've got the REALLY messed up situation of homeless people purposely getting themselves put in jail, because 'at least they get three meals a day and a bed there' 
WTF - Jail should be worse than being on the street, then people wouldn't CHOOSE to be sent there!
You don't hear of Thai people wanting to go to jail for a reason! It's !@$#! horrible! But, then again, they've got the weather I suppose 
The west is soft. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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You know it might help their credibility rather than hurt it if every person killed or in trouble with cops weren't actually breaking the law and doing something illegal. But, why is it that every person seems to have been a law breaker? Not saying folks should die of course, but i just wonder if everyone is getting tired of this civil rights industry? You see Al Sharpton making big bucks to shoot off his yapper. Asides from students from leftist schools no doubt brainwashed by their ex hippy professors and some folks who don't work or have jobs, who else protests over this crap? Quit comming crimes and cops wouldn't have to be so militant leading to these situations.
That said, there are times when cops are too militant of course. Also, a dude smoking a joint doesn't need to get sent to jail. Overcrowding in prison does lead to folks forming gangs for protection and being gangsters outside of prison. I do think inner city minorities deserve safe streets as much as suburban streets and why there should be a zero tolerance of crime. Guiliani really cleaned up New York City and it has less crime per capita compared to many other big cities in America. There is still something to the broken windows theory.
As for protesting in Korea, what's that going to accomplish? I doubt Koreans will even care. |
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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
You know it might help their credibility rather than hurt it if every person killed or in trouble with cops weren't actually breaking the law and doing something illegal. But, why is it that every person seems to have been a law breaker? Not saying folks should die of course, but i just wonder if everyone is getting tired of this civil rights industry? You see Al Sharpton making big bucks to shoot off his yapper. Asides from students from leftist schools no doubt brainwashed by their ex hippy professors and some folks who don't work or have jobs, who else protests over this crap? Quit comming crimes and cops wouldn't have to be so militant leading to these situations.
That said, there are times when cops are too militant of course. Also, a dude smoking a joint doesn't need to get sent to jail. Overcrowding in prison does lead to folks forming gangs for protection and being gangsters outside of prison. I do think inner city minorities deserve safe streets as much as suburban streets and why there should be a zero tolerance of crime. Guiliani really cleaned up New York City and it has less crime per capita compared to many other big cities in America. There is still something to the broken windows theory.
As for protesting in Korea, what's that going to accomplish? I doubt Koreans will even care. |
You sound like someone who has never dealt with American cops. Shootings aside they are generally overzealous asshole power trippers who now have the military hardware to back it up.
What crime was this kid committing when the cops just rolled up on him and started blasting? No one was even around him. Couldn't they have just stopped 50 yards down the road and told him to drop the gun instead of just firing away? Piss poor training. |
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cbmufc
Joined: 17 Jun 2014
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| radcon wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
You know it might help their credibility rather than hurt it if every person killed or in trouble with cops weren't actually breaking the law and doing something illegal. But, why is it that every person seems to have been a law breaker? Not saying folks should die of course, but i just wonder if everyone is getting tired of this civil rights industry? You see Al Sharpton making big bucks to shoot off his yapper. Asides from students from leftist schools no doubt brainwashed by their ex hippy professors and some folks who don't work or have jobs, who else protests over this crap? Quit comming crimes and cops wouldn't have to be so militant leading to these situations.
That said, there are times when cops are too militant of course. Also, a dude smoking a joint doesn't need to get sent to jail. Overcrowding in prison does lead to folks forming gangs for protection and being gangsters outside of prison. I do think inner city minorities deserve safe streets as much as suburban streets and why there should be a zero tolerance of crime. Guiliani really cleaned up New York City and it has less crime per capita compared to many other big cities in America. There is still something to the broken windows theory.
As for protesting in Korea, what's that going to accomplish? I doubt Koreans will even care. |
You sound like someone who has never dealt with American cops. Shootings aside they are generally overzealous asshole power trippers who now have the military hardware to back it up.
What crime was this kid committing when the cops just rolled up on him and started blasting? No one was even around him. Couldn't they have just stopped 50 yards down the road and told him to drop the gun instead of just firing away? Piss poor training. |
Do you know much about police training? Do you know for a fact that cops just rolled up on some kid and started blasting? |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| cbmufc wrote: |
| radcon wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
You know it might help their credibility rather than hurt it if every person killed or in trouble with cops weren't actually breaking the law and doing something illegal. But, why is it that every person seems to have been a law breaker? Not saying folks should die of course, but i just wonder if everyone is getting tired of this civil rights industry? You see Al Sharpton making big bucks to shoot off his yapper. Asides from students from leftist schools no doubt brainwashed by their ex hippy professors and some folks who don't work or have jobs, who else protests over this crap? Quit comming crimes and cops wouldn't have to be so militant leading to these situations.
That said, there are times when cops are too militant of course. Also, a dude smoking a joint doesn't need to get sent to jail. Overcrowding in prison does lead to folks forming gangs for protection and being gangsters outside of prison. I do think inner city minorities deserve safe streets as much as suburban streets and why there should be a zero tolerance of crime. Guiliani really cleaned up New York City and it has less crime per capita compared to many other big cities in America. There is still something to the broken windows theory.
As for protesting in Korea, what's that going to accomplish? I doubt Koreans will even care. |
You sound like someone who has never dealt with American cops. Shootings aside they are generally overzealous asshole power trippers who now have the military hardware to back it up.
What crime was this kid committing when the cops just rolled up on him and started blasting? No one was even around him. Couldn't they have just stopped 50 yards down the road and told him to drop the gun instead of just firing away? Piss poor training. |
Do you know much about police training? Do you know for a fact that cops just rolled up on some kid and started blasting? |
Have you watched the video? It's pretty clear that they just rolled up on some kid and started blasting. |
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cbmufc
Joined: 17 Jun 2014
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| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 12:54 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| cbmufc wrote: |
| radcon wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
You know it might help their credibility rather than hurt it if every person killed or in trouble with cops weren't actually breaking the law and doing something illegal. But, why is it that every person seems to have been a law breaker? Not saying folks should die of course, but i just wonder if everyone is getting tired of this civil rights industry? You see Al Sharpton making big bucks to shoot off his yapper. Asides from students from leftist schools no doubt brainwashed by their ex hippy professors and some folks who don't work or have jobs, who else protests over this crap? Quit comming crimes and cops wouldn't have to be so militant leading to these situations.
That said, there are times when cops are too militant of course. Also, a dude smoking a joint doesn't need to get sent to jail. Overcrowding in prison does lead to folks forming gangs for protection and being gangsters outside of prison. I do think inner city minorities deserve safe streets as much as suburban streets and why there should be a zero tolerance of crime. Guiliani really cleaned up New York City and it has less crime per capita compared to many other big cities in America. There is still something to the broken windows theory.
As for protesting in Korea, what's that going to accomplish? I doubt Koreans will even care. |
You sound like someone who has never dealt with American cops. Shootings aside they are generally overzealous asshole power trippers who now have the military hardware to back it up.
What crime was this kid committing when the cops just rolled up on him and started blasting? No one was even around him. Couldn't they have just stopped 50 yards down the road and told him to drop the gun instead of just firing away? Piss poor training. |
Do you know much about police training? Do you know for a fact that cops just rolled up on some kid and started blasting? |
Have you watched the video? It's pretty clear that they just rolled up on some kid and started blasting. |
I didn't bother reading the whole thread. Which event are we talking about? |
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northway
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