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atwood
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 Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: Chinese Chicken Coming to The U.S. Ew! |
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| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
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I have read that the few giant meat companies that dominate the U.S. meat market have over the years been competing over price so severely that their profit margin is literally less than 25 cents per chicken.
Well, looks like they have found a new way to cut costs. Get the chicken from China. Ew! I can only imagine the factory farm conditions in China. 
http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/11/08/chinese-chicken?cmpid=organic
Spread this news to friends and family at home. They should ask the supermarket where they shop where its meat comes from. If the supermarket does not know, they shouldn't buy it. |
you obviously have no clue about the factory farm conditions in america then. lol. utterly disgusting. have any idea why american eggs are refrigerated and eggs in most other countries aren't? because chicken farm conditions are so unsanitary in the states that most eggs contain traces of salmonella already and refrigeration is the only way to keep them remotely edible.
ever wonder why the meat companies that supply fast food companies buy enough ammonia to fill endless olympic-sized swimming pools? because it's used to "clean" the meat because it's so bacterial ridden.
when you get animals that are forced in the smallest pens possible pumped with antibiotics that aren't very effective due to resistance from overuse and make the animals eat food that is not a part of their natural diet and stress them out and force them to literally wallow in their own shit, bad bad things happen. and unfortunately for most americans, this is almost all of their meat and what's even more unfortunate is that most americans are utterly clueless or even worse, apathetic. |
Wrong on the egg washing: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/09/11/336330502/why-the-u-s-chills-its-eggs-and-most-of-the-world-doesnt |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: Chinese Chicken Coming to The U.S. Ew! |
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| atwood wrote: |
| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| Dev wrote: |
I have read that the few giant meat companies that dominate the U.S. meat market have over the years been competing over price so severely that their profit margin is literally less than 25 cents per chicken.
Well, looks like they have found a new way to cut costs. Get the chicken from China. Ew! I can only imagine the factory farm conditions in China.
http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/11/08/chinese-chicken?cmpid=organic
Spread this news to friends and family at home. They should ask the supermarket where they shop where its meat comes from. If the supermarket does not know, they shouldn't buy it. |
you obviously have no clue about the factory farm conditions in america then. lol. utterly disgusting. have any idea why american eggs are refrigerated and eggs in most other countries aren't? because chicken farm conditions are so unsanitary in the states that most eggs contain traces of salmonella already and refrigeration is the only way to keep them remotely edible.
ever wonder why the meat companies that supply fast food companies buy enough ammonia to fill endless olympic-sized swimming pools? because it's used to "clean" the meat because it's so bacterial ridden.
when you get animals that are forced in the smallest pens possible pumped with antibiotics that aren't very effective due to resistance from overuse and make the animals eat food that is not a part of their natural diet and stress them out and force them to literally wallow in their own shit, bad bad things happen. and unfortunately for most americans, this is almost all of their meat and what's even more unfortunate is that most americans are utterly clueless or even worse, apathetic. |
Wrong on the egg washing: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/09/11/336330502/why-the-u-s-chills-its-eggs-and-most-of-the-world-doesnt |
did you even read the article i linked and the article YOU linked? many american hens have salmonella in their ovaries and tend to pass it on to their eggs. this in combination with the literally piss-poor sanitary conditions hens live in and the washing off of the sheen of the shells, this compromises the integrity of the egg in a serious way, all because americans like things "clean" (which is actually detrimental to health, see also: antibacterial soaps and lotions). if these compromised eggs were not refrigerated they'd be much more susceptible to other contaminations beyond salmonella.
so no, i'm not wrong. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: Chinese Chicken Coming to The U.S. Ew! |
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| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| atwood wrote: |
| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| Dev wrote: |
I have read that the few giant meat companies that dominate the U.S. meat market have over the years been competing over price so severely that their profit margin is literally less than 25 cents per chicken.
Well, looks like they have found a new way to cut costs. Get the chicken from China. Ew! I can only imagine the factory farm conditions in China.
http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/11/08/chinese-chicken?cmpid=organic
Spread this news to friends and family at home. They should ask the supermarket where they shop where its meat comes from. If the supermarket does not know, they shouldn't buy it. |
you obviously have no clue about the factory farm conditions in america then. lol. utterly disgusting. have any idea why american eggs are refrigerated and eggs in most other countries aren't? because chicken farm conditions are so unsanitary in the states that most eggs contain traces of salmonella already and refrigeration is the only way to keep them remotely edible.
ever wonder why the meat companies that supply fast food companies buy enough ammonia to fill endless olympic-sized swimming pools? because it's used to "clean" the meat because it's so bacterial ridden.
when you get animals that are forced in the smallest pens possible pumped with antibiotics that aren't very effective due to resistance from overuse and make the animals eat food that is not a part of their natural diet and stress them out and force them to literally wallow in their own shit, bad bad things happen. and unfortunately for most americans, this is almost all of their meat and what's even more unfortunate is that most americans are utterly clueless or even worse, apathetic. |
Wrong on the egg washing: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/09/11/336330502/why-the-u-s-chills-its-eggs-and-most-of-the-world-doesnt |
did you even read the article i linked and the article YOU linked? many american hens have salmonella in their ovaries and tend to pass it on to their eggs. this in combination with the literally piss-poor sanitary conditions hens live in and the washing off of the sheen of the shells, this compromises the integrity of the egg in a serious way, all because americans like things "clean" (which is actually detrimental to health, see also: antibacterial soaps and lotions). if these compromised eggs were not refrigerated they'd be much more susceptible to other contaminations beyond salmonella.
so no, i'm not wrong. |
Yes, you are. You claimed the egg washing was due to unsanitary conditions on American farms. That's untrue.
Your claim about salmonella is also wrong:
You now say it is due to Americans like things clean. That is mostly correct. But your op was wrong.
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almonella enteritidis can infect a chicken's ovaries, contaminating a yolk before the shell firms up around it. Cooking usually kills the bacteria before they can harm you; still, eggs contaminated with salmonella are responsible for about 142,000 illnesses a year in the U.S., according to the Food and Drug Administration.
In some European countries, egg-laying hens are vaccinated against salmonella. In the U.S., vaccination is not required, but eggs must be washed and refrigerated from farm to store, and producers must follow a host of other safety measures.
"They're different approaches to basically achieve the same result," says Vincent Guyonnet, a poultry veterinarian and scientific adviser to the International Egg Commission. "We don't have massive [food safety] issues on either side of the Atlantic. Both methods seem to work." |
You now say it is due to Americans like things clean. That is partly correct. But for the most part you're still wrong. |
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guavashake
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| Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:40 am Post subject: |
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Watch: Factory Farm Whistleblower Unveils Disturbing Video 'Sustainable' farm conditions revealed -
http://naturalsociety.com/perdue-farm-whistleblower-unveils-disturbing-video/
Does ‘sustainable’ farming really mean what you think it does? We’ve all seen the concerning images and videos depicting abused and sickly animals set for sale for the lowest possible price point, but very few have seen inside of a major ‘sustainable’ factory farm that even the USDA says passes its standard of care.
A North Carolina contractor for meat processing giant Perdue has now unveiled what truly happens behind these ‘better’ farming operations that we are made to believe are the much better option for ourselves and our families. The result: a very disturbing reminder to eat a high quality organic diet:
As a contractor for Perdue, farmer Craig Watts says he is contractually obligated to ensure that the chickens destined for your dinner table do not receive any form of sunlight or fresh air. In addition, the chickens are forced to lay not only on their own bed of feces, but feces that has accumulated for around the past year. This is because the floors are not cleaned between each import of new chickens, leading to thick layers of feces, other bodily fluids, limbs, and other items accumulating to the point where the underbellies of the chickens are worn red and their feathers are rubbed clean off.
Is it any wonder that around 97% of all chicken products have been found to be tainted with harmful bacteria?
This is what millions around the world are paying for with their hard earned dollar, and it’s what major factory farms are selling off as ‘organic.’ Always remember that whenever corporations can use natural-style ‘buzz words’ to draw in customers without actually staying true to these labels, they most certainly will.
It’s up to you to purchase high quality organic items for you and your family, and to support initiatives to retake words like ‘natural’ away from corporations that would rather pay animal cruelty fines than change their practices.
Perdue farmer Craig Watts is likely in for a round of contractual lawsuits, however if Perdue is smart, they will not publicly sue Mr. Watts in order to avoid public backlash. I would expect, rather, for the company to issue a statement that Mr. Watts is in fact the individual responsible for the poor treatment, and that they are ‘evaluating’ their procedures.
- See more at: http://naturalsociety.com/perdue-farm-whistleblower-unveils-disturbing-video/#sthash.C2b7XGQp.dpuf |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| guavashake wrote: |
Watch: Factory Farm Whistleblower Unveils Disturbing Video 'Sustainable' farm conditions revealed -
http://naturalsociety.com/perdue-farm-whistleblower-unveils-disturbing-video/
Does ‘sustainable’ farming really mean what you think it does? We’ve all seen the concerning images and videos depicting abused and sickly animals set for sale for the lowest possible price point, but very few have seen inside of a major ‘sustainable’ factory farm that even the USDA says passes its standard of care.
A North Carolina contractor for meat processing giant Perdue has now unveiled what truly happens behind these ‘better’ farming operations that we are made to believe are the much better option for ourselves and our families. The result: a very disturbing reminder to eat a high quality organic diet:
As a contractor for Perdue, farmer Craig Watts says he is contractually obligated to ensure that the chickens destined for your dinner table do not receive any form of sunlight or fresh air. In addition, the chickens are forced to lay not only on their own bed of feces, but feces that has accumulated for around the past year. This is because the floors are not cleaned between each import of new chickens, leading to thick layers of feces, other bodily fluids, limbs, and other items accumulating to the point where the underbellies of the chickens are worn red and their feathers are rubbed clean off.
Is it any wonder that around 97% of all chicken products have been found to be tainted with harmful bacteria?
This is what millions around the world are paying for with their hard earned dollar, and it’s what major factory farms are selling off as ‘organic.’ Always remember that whenever corporations can use natural-style ‘buzz words’ to draw in customers without actually staying true to these labels, they most certainly will.
It’s up to you to purchase high quality organic items for you and your family, and to support initiatives to retake words like ‘natural’ away from corporations that would rather pay animal cruelty fines than change their practices.
Perdue farmer Craig Watts is likely in for a round of contractual lawsuits, however if Perdue is smart, they will not publicly sue Mr. Watts in order to avoid public backlash. I would expect, rather, for the company to issue a statement that Mr. Watts is in fact the individual responsible for the poor treatment, and that they are ‘evaluating’ their procedures.
- See more at: http://naturalsociety.com/perdue-farm-whistleblower-unveils-disturbing-video/#sthash.C2b7XGQp.dpuf |
Statements like the one I highlighted are hard to believe.
Contract chicken farmers have a tough time staying afloat because the contracts they labor under are often onerous. My guess is this guy is losing money and wants to get out from under Perdue. |
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