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[Zed]

[Zed]

[katydid]

Libra's in the house! Maybe we can have a joint birthday party...5 months from now.
Back on topic:
Yeah, but if their papers bleed red, I think they will never want to try to do anything again. I really like the advice of editing it to correct the things they should already know. I don't want them to feel they didn't do anything right in the paper. It'd be different with college students or adults, but not with middle school kids. My girls are so obsessed with spelling things right anyways, so much so I think they are missing the bigger picture. But something like "Put lettuce sandwich on" yeah that will have to be corrected.

[Zed]

Since you are going through them to type them up I would correct everything but when returning the papers to the students just point out the more glaring errors. If this book is something that is going home it will be a reflection on your teaching abilities which could draw you some criticism if it has several mistakes.

[kangnamdragon]

If you are wary of too much red on the paper, why not correct them in two phases. Give them a chance to redo them. I still think things should be edited until they are correct.

[kiwiboy_nz_99]

There's a difference between class publishing exercises and feedback oriented correction. For published stuff it should be completely correct, as language learners formulate rules every time they encounter new language, and they will assume it's correct after you've looked at it.

For handing papers back it's different. I have read that students will not absorb more than 5 corrections per paper returned. So pick your items of focus, and only correct items that are recurring, or that you've been working on as a class.

[Crois]

[ajuma]

What I would do is this: After getting all of their recipes, find the most common errors, address them in class, then have them correct their own mistakes IN GROUPS! It's much easier for them to have their peers correct their English than for YOU to do it.

When they're finished, edit what is needed and print it. They'll see their mistakes and learn from them.

[katydid]

OK, the cookbook idea is too much work and costs too much and will take a lot of time, so I am deciding to create a website instead and will correct the mistakes there and post it up at a later date for them. Maybe next week I'll hand back the corrected papers (written in blue ink, not red) and go over it quickly then.
Already have seen two cases of plagarism! Plagarism, it's not just for college anymore!

[Zed]

[katydid]

I know, but it still pisses me off, especially when it is SO obvious they have plagarized! One group copied a recipe out of our textbook, another one used my example recipe! Grrrr......

[kangnamdragon]

[katydid]

Yes. In fact, I want to do something rather cool, like find pictures of the things they have created and post those there and also make like an index page so I don't have 57 recipes on one page and I want to give the address to the students when it's done so they can see their work semi-published and show it off to their parents easily.
But I am the biggest loser when it comes to HTML and don't know if what I have in my head will match up to the reality of the site.

[kangnamdragon]

Don't be too upset, cuddlecakes. It is probably laziness more than evil studentness.

[katydid]

Sure, sweetpea. I am aware of that, and I think that is what ticks me off the most. Cause I know these girls have ideas floating around in their head, and in my class I want them to explore their creativity. They cn make jokes or whatever, it doesn't have to be perfect, just as long as they try. When they don't try I get snarky.