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Haibrok
Joined: 17 Jan 2015
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 Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:33 pm Post subject: Certified Teacher plus online TEFL--options? |
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hi
I'm going to be a newly-minted state of Texas certified teacher this May. I'm getting a science grade 7-12 (12 to 18 years old) certification, then adding on ESL, English and History. I'm also probably going to do a cheap online tefl.
Not really much teaching or life experience. Long story.
Also male and will be 29 years old.
What are my options besides Hagwon drudgery? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: Certified Teacher plus online TEFL--options? |
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| Haibrok wrote: |
hi
I'm going to be a newly-minted state of Texas certified teacher this May. I'm getting a science grade 7-12 (12 to 18 years old) certification, then adding on ESL, English and History. I'm also probably going to do a cheap online tefl.
Not really much teaching or life experience. Long story.
Also male and will be 29 years old.
What are my options besides Hagwon drudgery? |
Not much if you want to work in Korea.
You lack the home country experience for a decent international school. That issue will be the same everywhere.
Look at Taiwan (public schools), HongKong (NET) or China.
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Haibrok
Joined: 17 Jan 2015
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks
Hmmm,
So if for some reason I want to go to Korea (China too gross and dirty), will the certified teacher status plus online TEFL at least raise the salary/help me be more selective with jobs? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Haibrok wrote: |
Thanks
Hmmm,
So if for some reason I want to go to Korea (China too gross and dirty), will the certified teacher status plus online TEFL at least raise the salary/help me be more selective with jobs? |
Probably not without some home country classroom experience to go with it. Almost certainly not in the world of EFL.
Your on-line TEFL cert is essentially worthless.
A TEFL/TESL endorsement on your teaching license on the other hand might get you an extra $100/month.
LA is gross and dirty as is the industrial belt around the great lakes.
I guess the USA must be "gross and dirty" with no clean places to live and work? China is bigger than the USA. China, gross and dirty depends on the where.
Entry level EFL in Korea = 2.1 million krw. ($1900)
Better schools in China = 10k RMB ($1600 but lower costs of living)
2nd tier international schools in Thailand = $1800 (lower cost of living and better weather).
Time to start looking at the actual job postings (location, requirements adn remuneration packages) to see where you fit (and without that 2 years of home country experience to go with your "license" it is pretty low on the totem pole).
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Haibrok
Joined: 17 Jan 2015
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:49 am Post subject: |
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| Let's be real, the pollution and dirt in the anywhere with Western amenities in China does not come close to comparing to the worst parts of the USA. |
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happyinhenan
Joined: 01 Feb 2015
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| Haibrok wrote: |
Thanks
Hmmm,
So if for some reason I want to go to Korea (China too gross and dirty), will the certified teacher status plus online TEFL at least raise the salary/help me be more selective with jobs? |
Have you been to China? |
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OBwannabe
Joined: 16 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:12 am Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| Haibrok wrote: |
Thanks
Hmmm,
So if for some reason I want to go to Korea (China too gross and dirty), will the certified teacher status plus online TEFL at least raise the salary/help me be more selective with jobs? |
Probably not without some home country classroom experience to go with it. Almost certainly not in the world of EFL.
Your on-line TEFL cert is essentially worthless.
A TEFL/TESL endorsement on your teaching license on the other hand might get you an extra $100/month.
LA is gross and dirty as is the industrial belt around the great lakes.
I guess the USA must be "gross and dirty" with no clean places to live and work? China is bigger than the USA. China, gross and dirty depends on the where.
Entry level EFL in Korea = 2.1 million krw. ($1900)
Better schools in China = 10k RMB ($1600 but lower costs of living)
2nd tier international schools in Thailand = $1800 (lower cost of living and better weather).
Time to start looking at the actual job postings (location, requirements adn remuneration packages) to see where you fit (and without that 2 years of home country experience to go with your "license" it is pretty low on the totem pole).
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So is that two years of home country experience the golden ticket to good international schools then? I'm possibly going back to Canada this fall for my after-degree in Ed and was hoping to work in an international school in China upon completion. Is this unrealistic? The wages look quite good from what I've seen. Subbing for years is not an option. I need money!! Perhaps the territories are a possible destination for two years?
Couldn't one work their way up the totem pole in China or elsewhere without doing the two years in their home country? |
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Haibrok
Joined: 17 Jan 2015
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:15 am Post subject: |
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I would be interested in the answer to this as well.
I wonder if two years at a 2nd tier international school would work as well.
My ultimate goal is Russia, though. |
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happyinhenan
Joined: 01 Feb 2015
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| Haibrok wrote: |
My ultimate goal is Russia, though. |
If you think China is 'too gross and dirty' then Russia going to make your head spin, ever thought about staying right where you are?
Some people are just not suited to this, no matter what their qualifications, have a good think about it.  |
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Haibrok
Joined: 17 Jan 2015
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| Ever thought about not derailing threads by having a giant chip on your shoulder and denying reality? |
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happyinhenan
Joined: 01 Feb 2015
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