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calgarykyle
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 Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:25 pm Post subject: Gyopos on Overseas Koreans F-4 Visas.... |
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... can you use these Visas to sponsor your non-Korean spouse?
Anybody know? Thanks... |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| According to the information in the new Sojourner's Guide, pages 238-241, you may have to have a some other visa status for your spouse other than an F3. The information related to this particular dependent visa appears to restricted only to those holding a position in certain fields. Check it out for sure by calling the immigration hotline at 1345. They will have the best advice and answer for you, or else just drop into your local immigration office if there is one near you and ask. If you are inquiring from out of country then just contact your Korean consulate if there is one near you. |
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calgarykyle
Joined: 15 Dec 2014
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks. I did call the Vancouver embassy and they didn't know the answer. Frustrating... |
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calgarykyle
Joined: 15 Dec 2014
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Also, the F3 is just for dependents, correct? It doesn't allow one to work?
Thanks... |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: Gyopos on Overseas Koreans F-4 Visas.... |
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| calgarykyle wrote: |
... can you use these Visas to sponsor your non-Korean spouse?
Anybody know? Thanks... |
If you are on an F4 your non-Korean spouse would receive an F1 and not be eligible for work.
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peter07
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Gwangmyeong
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:16 am Post subject: |
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I hear that you can teach up to middle school on an F1 but I could be wrong.
I also have a non-Korean spouse on an F1, and our daughter is on the same visa. |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| peter07 wrote: |
I hear that you can teach up to middle school on an F1 but I could be wrong.
I also have a non-Korean spouse on an F1, and our daughter is on the same visa. |
The F1 is a non-work visa, no work allowed. If someone is using this visa to work they are doing it illegally. |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| if you have an f4 you are most likely eligible for dual citizenship. get your korean citizenship and get your wife a visa that way. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:26 am Post subject: |
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| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| if you have an f4 you are most likely eligible for dual citizenship. get your korean citizenship and get your wife a visa that way. |
No.
Dual citizenship is only in certain situations, it isn't a blanket thing for F4 visa holders, it also isn't even for most of them. In fact if you were eligible for dual citizenship you probably would not have been issued an F4 visa as the embassies will generally note when someone who applies for an F4 visa should have dual citizenship and reject them.
However F4 visa holders can possibly transfer to an F5, if they can meet the requirements for that they can sponsor their spouse for an F2. |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| alongway wrote: |
| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| if you have an f4 you are most likely eligible for dual citizenship. get your korean citizenship and get your wife a visa that way. |
No.
Dual citizenship is only in certain situations, it isn't a blanket thing for F4 visa holders, it also isn't even for most of them. In fact if you were eligible for dual citizenship you probably would not have been issued an F4 visa as the embassies will generally note when someone who applies for an F4 visa should have dual citizenship and reject them.
However F4 visa holders can possibly transfer to an F5, if they can meet the requirements for that they can sponsor their spouse for an F2. |
this is not even close to true. i know more than a few people on f4's who can get dual citizenship but just haven't gotten around to it yet. an embassy CANNOT force a person to get dual citizenship. in fact, most first world countries don't even allow dual citzenship. if a gyopo wants to get an f4 and qualifies for it, they can fill out the proper paperwork and submit it and get an f4. easy. if the gyopo wants to get his/her citizenship there are requirements that must be met and not all f4's will qualify, but if and when an f4 gets dual citizenship is totally up to them as long as they meet the requirements to get one.
as i said op, get dual citizenship and get your wife a working visa that way if she plans on working. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| alongway wrote: |
| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| if you have an f4 you are most likely eligible for dual citizenship. get your korean citizenship and get your wife a visa that way. |
No.
Dual citizenship is only in certain situations, it isn't a blanket thing for F4 visa holders, it also isn't even for most of them. In fact if you were eligible for dual citizenship you probably would not have been issued an F4 visa as the embassies will generally note when someone who applies for an F4 visa should have dual citizenship and reject them.
However F4 visa holders can possibly transfer to an F5, if they can meet the requirements for that they can sponsor their spouse for an F2. |
this is not even close to true. i know more than a few people on f4's who can get dual citizenship but just haven't gotten around to it yet. an embassy CANNOT force a person to get dual citizenship. in fact, most first world countries don't even allow dual citzenship. if a gyopo wants to get an f4 and qualifies for it, they can fill out the proper paperwork and submit it and get an f4. easy. if the gyopo wants to get his/her citizenship there are requirements that must be met and not all f4's will qualify, but if and when an f4 gets dual citizenship is totally up to them as long as they meet the requirements to get one.
as i said op, get dual citizenship and get your wife a working visa that way if she plans on working. |
Speaking of not remotely true, try looking around expat blogs and forums there are stories of gyopos who tried to apply for an F4 and were rejected because they were considered dual citizens even though they had no idea of it. The actual situations where dual citizenship is allowed for ethnic Koreans over the age of 21 is somewhat limited still, despite dual citizenship being allowed.
I've got a friend who was born Korean, whose parents moved her to Korean when she was a kid, so she took Canadian citizenship, and she's back here on an F4 (for 10 years), and they've told her that there is no way for her to get dual citizenship. It's not remotely the automatic completely open thing you make it out to be.
If you are born with dual citizenship, acquire it via marriage, or certain other methods, you're allowed to keep it so long as you meet certain conditions. But not everyone who qualifies for an F4 can just get dual citizenship, espcially those born before 1988.
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| in fact, most first world countries don't even allow dual citzenship. |
In fact, further evidence you're full of it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_citizenship#Dual_citizenship_by_region
http://nomadcapitalist.com/2014/04/25/countries-allow-dual-citizenship/
http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/first_world.htm
That is your list of first world countries, Let's go through it shall we?
Belgium - yes
Canada- yes
France - yes
Iceland- yes
Netherlands - birth or marriage only
Spain- Yes
USA - yes
Germany - Currently a law being worked/in place to allow it for young people going forward
Italy - Yes
Norway - No, unless you're from a country which doesn't allow you to give it up
Turkey - Yes
Denmark - Only by birth
Greece - Yes
Luxembourg - Yes
Portugal - Yes
United Kingdom - Yes
Israel - Yes
Japan - Only on birth until adulthood
Korea - Yes, in various situations
Australia - Yes
New Zealand - yes
Austria - Birth, secret millionaire program and countries which don't allow you to give it up
Ireland - Yes
Sweden - Yes
Switzerland - yes
Almost every single first world country except a couple allow dual citizenship. At this point I'm going to suggest you sit down, shut up and don't speak unless spoken to, and allow the people who have a clue what they're talking about to weigh in on the discussion. |
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nate1983
Joined: 30 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| most first world countries don't even allow dual citzenship. |
I'd really like to know what you think a "first world country" is. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| if you have an f4 you are most likely eligible for dual citizenship. get your korean citizenship and get your wife a visa that way. |
If you're a gyopo male with foreign citizenship and didn't serve in the Korean Army, you must give up any other nationality you have and be a Korean citizen exclusively, as in NO dual nationality. I think this rule doesn't apply to adoptees, though. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| if you have an f4 you are most likely eligible for dual citizenship. get your korean citizenship and get your wife a visa that way. |
If you're a gyopo male with foreign citizenship and didn't serve in the Korean Army, you must give up any other nationality you have and be a Korean citizen exclusively, as in NO dual nationality. I think this rule doesn't apply to adoptees, though. |
I think we've well established at this point that that guy has zero clue what he's talking about.
OP: Cal 1345 and ask what the requirements are for an F4 to switch to an F5. That will take care of an issue on sponsoring your non-Korean spouse. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:36 am Post subject: |
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| alongway wrote: |
| Yaya wrote: |
| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| if you have an f4 you are most likely eligible for dual citizenship. get your korean citizenship and get your wife a visa that way. |
If you're a gyopo male with foreign citizenship and didn't serve in the Korean Army, you must give up any other nationality you have and be a Korean citizen exclusively, as in NO dual nationality. I think this rule doesn't apply to adoptees, though. |
I think we've well established at this point that that guy has zero clue what he's talking about.
OP: Cal 1345 and ask what the requirements are for an F4 to switch to an F5. That will take care of an issue on sponsoring your non-Korean spouse. |
You talking about me? I should know because I asked about dual nationality and that was the answer given to me by immigration. |
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