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jazzmaster



Joined: 30 Sep 2013

PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3DR wrote:
I feel like people just disagree with SR because it's SR. He says some pretty insightful stuff, it's just that people don't like getting called out for their biased and holier than though positions. Keep going SR. Cool


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Those sunglasses must be obscuring your view.
The boy compares frustration at Koreans blocking an anti-discrimination bill with people demanding Sharia law in the UK.

As a previous poster said, SR is hitting a new low. He really is scraping the bottom of the barrel these days.
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Nester Noodlemon



Joined: 16 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3DR wrote:
I feel like people just disagree with SR because it's SR. He says some pretty insightful stuff, it's just that people don't like getting called out for their biased and holier than though positions. Keep going SR. Cool


Nahhhh! Most everyone disagrees with his posts, except for 2 other posters. Cool
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
It's not Korea's fault that it has horrible road safety??

Sometimes horrible sidewalk safety, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N8AItTGUos
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GJoeM wrote:
Steelrails wrote the following, and expects to be taken seriously?

Quote:
"The stereotypical "Korean immigrant daddy" back home: Struggles with the language, talking about how the culture in his new land is corrupt and people need to think like his ethnic kindred back home, can't fit in, thinks society is going to corrupt him and his children, talks about always moving back home, thinks everyone is racist against him and out to get him, is upset at his perceived loss of status as a minority in a foreign land, and judging from a few posts I've seen on parenting, seems to institute draconian rules on what language is spoken in the house and seems like they might get upset if their daughter starts dating a local boy."


Fixed it so the Korea haters can agree with it. All of them would nod in agreement about this. Yet, suggest that foreign immigrant dad's in Korea are potentially vulnerable when it comes to experiencing the same phenomenon? Hogwash.
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bossface



Joined: 05 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:

Most Dave's posters are males married to a Korean citizen.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2943762&highlight=#2943762


Dude, really? 24 responses in a voluntary poll in the off-topic forum counts as science?

Also, I was kinda sad to see this thread go off topic. Rather than discussing the OP and the fairly terrible KT article he posted, it turned into just another bog standard bashers vs apologists thing.
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Cave Dweller



Joined: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nester Noodlemon wrote:
3DR wrote:
I feel like people just disagree with SR because it's SR. He says some pretty insightful stuff, it's just that people don't like getting called out for their biased and holier than though positions. Keep going SR. Cool


Nahhhh! Most everyone disagrees with his posts, except for 2 other posters. Cool


Probably his socks.
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jazzmaster



Joined: 30 Sep 2013

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
GJoeM wrote:
Steelrails wrote the following, and expects to be taken seriously?

Quote:
"The stereotypical "Korean immigrant daddy" back home: Struggles with the language, talking about how the culture in his new land is corrupt and people need to think like his ethnic kindred back home, can't fit in, thinks society is going to corrupt him and his children, talks about always moving back home, thinks everyone is racist against him and out to get him, is upset at his perceived loss of status as a minority in a foreign land, and judging from a few posts I've seen on parenting, seems to institute draconian rules on what language is spoken in the house and seems like they might get upset if their daughter starts dating a local boy."


Fixed it so the Korea haters can agree with it. All of them would nod in agreement about this. Yet, suggest that foreign immigrant dad's in Korea are potentially vulnerable when it comes to experiencing the same phenomenon? Hogwash.


I guess this is the closest you get to admitting you've never been to any of the posters' houses (yet you still felt qualified to discuss their children's attitudes towards them because you read "a few posts").

Your posts, attitude, and beliefs are bigoted, biased, and fallacious. There really is something wrong with you, and now it deserves pity more than anything.

And if the government in my country of birth was blocking an anti-discrimination bill I would be condemning it as much as I condemn Korea for doing so.
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Qonny



Joined: 28 Oct 2014

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazzmaster wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
GJoeM wrote:
Steelrails wrote the following, and expects to be taken seriously?

Quote:
"The stereotypical "Korean immigrant daddy" back home: Struggles with the language, talking about how the culture in his new land is corrupt and people need to think like his ethnic kindred back home, can't fit in, thinks society is going to corrupt him and his children, talks about always moving back home, thinks everyone is racist against him and out to get him, is upset at his perceived loss of status as a minority in a foreign land, and judging from a few posts I've seen on parenting, seems to institute draconian rules on what language is spoken in the house and seems like they might get upset if their daughter starts dating a local boy."


Fixed it so the Korea haters can agree with it. All of them would nod in agreement about this. Yet, suggest that foreign immigrant dad's in Korea are potentially vulnerable when it comes to experiencing the same phenomenon? Hogwash.


I guess this is the closest you get to admitting you've never been to any of the posters' houses (yet you still felt qualified to discuss their children's attitudes towards them because you read "a few posts").

Your posts, attitude, and beliefs are bigoted, biased, and fallacious. There really is something wrong with you, and now it deserves pity more than anything.

And if the government in my country of birth was blocking an anti-discrimination bill I would be condemning it as much as I condemn Korea for doing so.


His post was based off the famous Dodge7/Nolos/Sesame whatever he's calling himself nowadays. He is the one poster i recall posting how he was going to institute an English only rule at home and a bunch of other crazy ideas. From what i remember most respondents laughed at him or called him out. Dodge7 is a known idiot. And a pathological liar.
But Steelrails, as he often does, has taken this one example of idiocy, and tarred all posters with it. He could argue that that is what people here do to Koreans. Maybe he's right?
But yes, he has no idea what the majority of Fathers here do in regards to their children and it's a bit tacky and Steelrailsish that he tries to draw that comparison.
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cmxc



Joined: 19 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:49 pm    Post subject: The best thing about Korea Reply with quote

The best thing about Korea is the utterly serene feeling you get when you finally decide enough Korean nonsense is enough.

The feeling you get when you land the six figure job offer with paid relocation that gives you the sweet ticket to greener pastures.

The wonderful anticipation of leaving a basket-case of a country whose keywords are corruption, embezzlement, fraud, bribery, prostitution, suicide, etc. for a country with one of the least corrupt and most efficient/transparent governments in Asia and the world.

The refreshing concept of leaving a country bordering on nazi-type knee-jerk ethnocentric nationalism and xenophobia for a country that prides itself on its cultural diversity and openness.

Overall Korea (and especially the female portion of the population) has been decent to me, but I know a better future awaits me elsewhere.

Within 2 months, Korea will be only a memory for me, so I wish the rest of you the best of luck.
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jazzmaster



Joined: 30 Sep 2013

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:36 am    Post subject: Re: The best thing about Korea Reply with quote

cmxc wrote:
The best thing about Korea is the utterly serene feeling you get when you finally decide enough Korean nonsense is enough.

The feeling you get when you land the six figure job offer with paid relocation that gives you the sweet ticket to greener pastures.

The wonderful anticipation of leaving a basket-case of a country whose keywords are corruption, embezzlement, fraud, bribery, prostitution, suicide, etc. for a country with one of the least corrupt and most efficient/transparent governments in Asia and the world.

The refreshing concept of leaving a country bordering on nazi-type knee-jerk ethnocentric nationalism and xenophobia for a country that prides itself on its cultural diversity and openness.

Overall Korea (and especially the female portion of the population) has been decent to me, but I know a better future awaits me elsewhere.

Within 2 months, Korea will be only a memory for me, so I wish the rest of you the best of luck.


Good luck to you!

Where you off to, and what do you have lined up?
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Cave Dweller



Joined: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:05 am    Post subject: Re: The best thing about Korea Reply with quote

From the sounds of it, Singapore?

jazzmaster wrote:
cmxc wrote:
The best thing about Korea is the utterly serene feeling you get when you finally decide enough Korean nonsense is enough.

The feeling you get when you land the six figure job offer with paid relocation that gives you the sweet ticket to greener pastures.

The wonderful anticipation of leaving a basket-case of a country whose keywords are corruption, embezzlement, fraud, bribery, prostitution, suicide, etc. for a country with one of the least corrupt and most efficient/transparent governments in Asia and the world.

The refreshing concept of leaving a country bordering on nazi-type knee-jerk ethnocentric nationalism and xenophobia for a country that prides itself on its cultural diversity and openness.

Overall Korea (and especially the female portion of the population) has been decent to me, but I know a better future awaits me elsewhere.

Within 2 months, Korea will be only a memory for me, so I wish the rest of you the best of luck.


Good luck to you!

Where you off to, and what do you have lined up?
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Enrico Palazzo
Mod Team
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Joined: 11 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazzmaster wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
edwardcatflap wrote:
You don't get paid to watch a certain TV station or have a wife/girlfriend that refuses to watch anything else. It also takes a little longer than the flick of a switch to find a job and move to another country. As usual your analogiy is pretty irrelevant.


As to the first, I guess it all depends on the value you place on money, something I must note we often take Koreans to task for. Anyways, if you lack the money to switch to HBO, that's not Lifetime's fault. Lifetime isn't there to be ESPN to one person, HBO to another, and CNN to a third. It's there to be Lifetime.

And just because it isn't as easy as flicking a button on the remote, doesn't mean it's Lifetime's fault that you are unwilling/unable to get off the couch and turn the dial.

And as for your wife refusing to change the channel, well we all know that's a losing battle for the best of us, whether literally or metaphorically. Nothing wrong with that, but then is that Lifetime's fault? I guess more reasonable complainers take to reading a book even though the TV is on, which is fine. But for those who don't have a wife, it seriously reaches the point of the guy on the couch who complains but doesn't change the station.


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You're a proper [ad-hominem attack] sometimes. Do you realize that, or do you believe the shite you post on here?
Telling people to leave Korea because they don't like aspects of Korean society is live telling them to throw their brand new expensive tv out the window because they don't like the tv show. Suggesting either marks you out as a loon.

Steelrails puts the anal in analogies, because his are pure [Mod Edit].

What is that you don't understand? Re-read the TOS.


Ad-hominem attacks of this nature and ferocity are never acceptable, Mr. Jazzmaster. Let's be clear.

Thank you.

'Rico
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jazzmaster



Joined: 30 Sep 2013

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ad-hominem attacks of this nature and ferocity are never acceptable, Mr. Jazzmaster. Let's be clear.

Thank you.

'Rico


Fair enough.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazzmaster wrote:
There seems to be a constant pish stream of jingoist bigotry coming from the apologist camp these days. Like that shitty Gangnam Style song stuck on a loop, forever preaching the same tired shite that was dealt with ages ago.

I know people in Korea and back home who hate their jobs. I've never once said to them "why don't you leave your job?".
Why?
Because it's fairly obvious to anyone with a functioning brain that it's not that fucking easy. People have spent years building a career and life. To simply quit and get another job is not as simple as you want to paint it to be. Only an idiot would think otherwise, and only a deluded idiot would compare it to changing a tv channel.

Good content here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zBWShJMvbc
[37 minutes in]
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Chaparrastique



Joined: 01 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazzmaster wrote:
Quote:
Ad-hominem attacks of this nature and ferocity are never acceptable, Mr. Jazzmaster. Let's be clear.

Thank you.

'Rico


Fair enough.



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