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Cave Dweller
Joined: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:11 am Post subject: |
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Similar to my situation. The only day I can get to Costco is Sunday and only sometimes still. Then I check the net and, low and behold, closed.
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| For me this system was a real pain in the proverbial. I usually did overtime on a Saturday and wanted to do a shop on Sunday in Emart, which was bang next to my house. When it was it was shut I had to get a bus to the nearest place that sold meat and veg. Needless to say the local fast food places were the businesses that benefitted most. |
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Qonny
Joined: 28 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:22 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the links, but they may be no longer accurate since Walmart just gave employees, at least in the U.S., pay raises. Even so, saying it could affect those teaching English in Korea is a stretch worthy of Stretch Armstrong. |
Did you actually look at the links?
They focused on how Walmart effects the wider community and other businesses. Business closures, sales tax revenue declines etc.
It's not much of stretch to see how generalized economic contractions, could trickle down into education budgets and private education spending, even at a low level.
It's not a black and white issue. I shop at Emart and Homeplus. It would suck balls if they went away. The Sunday closings are harebrained. But it's understandable why the government would want to do something to protect smaller businesses. Especially in small/mid size towns.
No good can come of the death of small businesses at the hands of multinational discount chains. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| Qonny wrote: |
| atwood wrote: |
Thanks for the links, but they may be no longer accurate since Walmart just gave employees, at least in the U.S., pay raises. Even so, saying it could affect those teaching English in Korea is a stretch worthy of Stretch Armstrong. |
Did you actually look at the links?
They focused on how Walmart effects the wider community and other businesses. Business closures, sales tax revenue declines etc.
It's not much of stretch to see how generalized economic contractions, could trickle down into education budgets and private education spending, even at a low level.
It's not a black and white issue. I shop at Emart and Homeplus. It would suck balls if they went away. The Sunday closings are harebrained. But it's understandable why the government would want to do something to protect smaller businesses. Especially in small/mid size towns.
No good can come of the death of small businesses at the hands of multinational discount chains. |
Of course I looked at the links. How else could I comment on the data, which is now outdated?
As for the Korean government, they are doing very little to help small businesses. It's called Korea Inc. for a reason; banks are directed by the government to support the chaebols.
A good example is the government's effort to legalize food trucks. Then the president learned through the media that CJ and who knows else was gearing up to enter the food truck business.
The gang that couldn't shoot straight, and the Sunday closures are a big miss.
"The death of the small businesses.." Dig the melodrama, but these mom and pa places in Korea are killing themselves. But hey, cry me a river if it makes you feel better. |
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KoreaGoesNutrageous
Joined: 24 Feb 2015
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| Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:56 am Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
| Qonny wrote: |
| atwood wrote: |
Thanks for the links, but they may be no longer accurate since Walmart just gave employees, at least in the U.S., pay raises. Even so, saying it could affect those teaching English in Korea is a stretch worthy of Stretch Armstrong. |
Did you actually look at the links?
They focused on how Walmart effects the wider community and other businesses. Business closures, sales tax revenue declines etc.
It's not much of stretch to see how generalized economic contractions, could trickle down into education budgets and private education spending, even at a low level.
It's not a black and white issue. I shop at Emart and Homeplus. It would suck balls if they went away. The Sunday closings are harebrained. But it's understandable why the government would want to do something to protect smaller businesses. Especially in small/mid size towns.
No good can come of the death of small businesses at the hands of multinational discount chains. |
Of course I looked at the links. How else could I comment on the data, which is now outdated?
As for the Korean government, they are doing very little to help small businesses. It's called Korea Inc. for a reason; banks are directed by the government to support the chaebols.
A good example is the government's effort to legalize food trucks. Then the president learned through the media that CJ and who knows else was gearing up to enter the food truck business.
The gang that couldn't shoot straight, and the Sunday closures are a big miss.
"The death of the small businesses.." Dig the melodrama, but these mom and pa places in Korea are killing themselves. But hey, cry me a river if it makes you feel better. |
Though they are giving raises, from what I've read, they will also be limiting hours to the point where the workers will still be making the same as they were pre-raise. They will also probably be staffing even fewer people then they already do. But I guess the workers will have more hours to work a different job on the side. It will be a good deal for the motivated. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 5:04 am Post subject: |
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| KoreaGoesNutrageous wrote: |
| atwood wrote: |
| Qonny wrote: |
| atwood wrote: |
Thanks for the links, but they may be no longer accurate since Walmart just gave employees, at least in the U.S., pay raises. Even so, saying it could affect those teaching English in Korea is a stretch worthy of Stretch Armstrong. |
Did you actually look at the links?
They focused on how Walmart effects the wider community and other businesses. Business closures, sales tax revenue declines etc.
It's not much of stretch to see how generalized economic contractions, could trickle down into education budgets and private education spending, even at a low level.
It's not a black and white issue. I shop at Emart and Homeplus. It would suck balls if they went away. The Sunday closings are harebrained. But it's understandable why the government would want to do something to protect smaller businesses. Especially in small/mid size towns.
No good can come of the death of small businesses at the hands of multinational discount chains. |
Of course I looked at the links. How else could I comment on the data, which is now outdated?
As for the Korean government, they are doing very little to help small businesses. It's called Korea Inc. for a reason; banks are directed by the government to support the chaebols.
A good example is the government's effort to legalize food trucks. Then the president learned through the media that CJ and who knows else was gearing up to enter the food truck business.
The gang that couldn't shoot straight, and the Sunday closures are a big miss.
"The death of the small businesses.." Dig the melodrama, but these mom and pa places in Korea are killing themselves. But hey, cry me a river if it makes you feel better. |
Though they are giving raises, from what I've read, they will also be limiting hours to the point where the workers will still be making the same as they were pre-raise. They will also probably be staffing even fewer people then they already do. But I guess the workers will have more hours to work a different job on the side. It will be a good deal for the motivated. |
I don't think there is going to be any change in scheduling, rather the hours are already limited so that the raises will not have the effect some might think, i.e., workers are still in a tough spot financially after the raises. |
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Qonny
Joined: 28 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
Of course I looked at the links. How else could I comment on the data, which is now outdated?
As for the Korean government, they are doing very little to help small businesses. It's called Korea Inc. for a reason; banks are directed by the government to support the chaebols.
A good example is the government's effort to legalize food trucks. Then the president learned through the media that CJ and who knows else was gearing up to enter the food truck business.
The gang that couldn't shoot straight, and the Sunday closures are a big miss.
"The death of the small businesses.." Dig the melodrama, but these mom and pa places in Korea are killing themselves. But hey, cry me a river if it makes you feel better. |
Because you started talking about wages increasing, which had nothing to do with my original point or the point of the links posted.
How about you show some evidence to illustrate how opening big box stores doesn't adversely effect businesses around them and the community generally. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Qonny wrote: |
| atwood wrote: |
Of course I looked at the links. How else could I comment on the data, which is now outdated?
As for the Korean government, they are doing very little to help small businesses. It's called Korea Inc. for a reason; banks are directed by the government to support the chaebols.
A good example is the government's effort to legalize food trucks. Then the president learned through the media that CJ and who knows else was gearing up to enter the food truck business.
The gang that couldn't shoot straight, and the Sunday closures are a big miss.
"The death of the small businesses.." Dig the melodrama, but these mom and pa places in Korea are killing themselves. But hey, cry me a river if it makes you feel better. |
Because you started talking about wages increasing, which had nothing to do with my original point or the point of the links posted.
How about you show some evidence to illustrate how opening big box stores doesn't adversely effect businesses around them and the community generally. |
That's absolutely false. Decreased wages were cited as one of the causes of the economic losses the "researchers" posited are caused by Walmarts. Now that wages have been raised it makes complete sense to wonder if their conclusions are still valid.
As for evidence:
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| Walmart a Boon to Local Economies, Study Finds |
http://www.publicceo.com/2014/02/walmart-a-boon-to-local-economies-study-finds/
As for the economy as a whole and the conclusions you reach, the multinationals creating the imbalances and slowdown which have led to less hiring and lower wages are not Costco and Tesco--they are Samsung and LG. |
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furtakk
Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:12 am Post subject: |
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The Sunday closures don't bother me too much, it's the limit on operating times that I hate.
Many HomePlus and Emart branches used to be 24 hours. And, Costco used to open at 8AM. Going just after opening was bliss. Now it's a nightmare any time of the day.
Anyway, I do most shopping online these days. HomePlus will deliver for free if you order 30,000 won or more and you can choose a delivery time. |
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le-paul
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre
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| Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| furtakk wrote: |
The Sunday closures don't bother me too much, it's the limit on operating times that I hate.
Many HomePlus and Emart branches used to be 24 hours. And, Costco used to open at 8AM. Going just after opening was bliss. Now it's a nightmare any time of the day.
Anyway, I do most shopping online these days. HomePlus will deliver for free if you order 30,000 won or more and you can choose a delivery time. |
Do they deliver at night?
Anyway, I wouldnt put too much hope in homeplus. Management in korea foresee a dismal future for them because of sales and tesco are separating from them soon as theyve had enough. |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| I find HomePlus to be just plain expensive. There is never a sale on anything. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| I find HomePlus to be just plain expensive. There is never a sale on anything. |
Are you sure about that? Also, like so many other places nowadays, the key is to use one of those "member cards" to get the lower/member price. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Stan Rogers wrote: |
| I find HomePlus to be just plain expensive. There is never a sale on anything. |
Milk and yogurt are usually buy one get one free, lots of the meat is usually on sale, some fruit is usually on sale, lots of 1+1s around the store of things I don't buy so can't be specific.
I much prefer HomePlus to E-mart and Lotte Mart, but each to his own. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| I've said this before and I'll say it again: If you're going to force large supermarkets to close on Sundays and limit the hours they can open, why not convenience stores (and maybe department stores) too? They're just as much competitors to small supermarkets as large supermarkets. |
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motiontodismiss
Joined: 18 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:53 am Post subject: |
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| I've said this before and I'll say it again: If you're going to force large supermarkets to close on Sundays and limit the hours they can open, why not convenience stores (and maybe department stores) too? They're just as much competitors to small supermarkets as large supermarkets. |
I'll also add this tidbit: if it closes on Sunday, I'll just go on Monday or Saturday. I'm not going to the small supermarket that costs more than Emart and doesn't have half the items I want. |
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furtakk
Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| le-paul wrote: |
| furtakk wrote: |
The Sunday closures don't bother me too much, it's the limit on operating times that I hate.
Many HomePlus and Emart branches used to be 24 hours. And, Costco used to open at 8AM. Going just after opening was bliss. Now it's a nightmare any time of the day.
Anyway, I do most shopping online these days. HomePlus will deliver for free if you order 30,000 won or more and you can choose a delivery time. |
Do they deliver at night?
Anyway, I wouldnt put too much hope in homeplus. Management in korea foresee a dismal future for them because of sales and tesco are separating from them soon as theyve had enough. |
You have to choose a 2 hour window for delivery.
The first is 10AM - 12. The last is 8PM - 10PM. |
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