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Squid

Joined: 25 Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Anyang
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with another opinion that paying from a wallet is unnacceptable.
It indicates a lack of professionalism similar to what I encountered at my last gig.
I quit. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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In Korea there isn't the same weight placed on payday. Sometimes you get paid a few days later. It's commonly done. However, if you only get half of your pay for the month, and the rest doesn't come in the next few days, or week or two, then that's very different.
I'd state that I need to get my full pay, that I understand that it may be a little late, but I need to have my pay. I would ask after two weeks, when exactly will I get paid the remainder. I would do it in a room with only the director and I, and no one else. Witnesses would only make the director lose face. Your relationship with your director is more important to your longterm happiness in the position. After getting the exact date, if the amount isn't provided on that date, I'd state I must get it in two weeks (giving the director an exact date) or else I'll have to give notice. If the director doesn't provide the funds on that date, then on that date I give notice that I'll have to leave in exactly two weeks because I need the amount of money (by which point, most directors will cough up the funds).
Anyone would be well served to let their director know they need to send money home every month, or save for an upcoming trip, or other set demand, that requires the funds of a full paycheque.
It sounds a bit convoluted, but the idea is simple: I am flexible but I need the money. No hard feelings and no loss of face. Remember: It's a practical issue, without the need to get angry or indignant.
I was paid late a few times until I had to nicely request a specific date of payment. Since then, I've had no problems.
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Mosley
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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"In Korea there isn't the same weight placed on payday."I sure as hell hope you mean for the barbarian. For Koreans, payday sure as hell DOES have the same weight as back home. I've been paid late 4 times in 20 months. I asked veteran (15+yrs.) Korean teachers if they've ever been paid late. They couldn't even grasp the CONCEPT of late pay. They looked at me like I was putting them on.
It's a completely double standard. |
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sparkx
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: thekimchipot.com
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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To whom it may concern,
Presently, my brother is working at a Hakwan in which a Canadian lady teacher accepted half of her salary for one month. The Director's excuse was once again the much vaunted "I forgot my wallet." I have instructed my brother to say "No pay, no work" if the same thing should happen to him. Is there anybody out there who can enlighten me on the finer points of this scenario when and if it happens? Thank you |
First things first people. The brother needs to have a serious meeting of the minds with this Canadian lady to find out why she accepted a 50% reduction in pay. If it's because this was a freak occurance the brother can act accordingly and be humble if the same happens to him. If the lady is just some non-confrontational kook, he needs to have a sit down with her to devise some kind of plan. If she continuously bends over and takes the shaft, it will set a precedence for all other teachers at that school and she needs to know that fact. The onus is on her... |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| The "wallet" thing is B.S. That was pulled on me once. I walked out the door telling them I'd be home till I got paid. The Won Jang Nim then got on the phone and transfered the money (via said phone) to my account. Don't accept any B.S about missing wallets or checks or whatever. They can transfer the money with a single phone call. |
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ulsanchris
Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Location: take a wild guess
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 5:39 am Post subject: |
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Late pay isn't something that Koreans don't put up with either. At my last job I and two other Korean teachers quit at the same time because the boss had been late with our pay a few times.
The stuff about the relationship between the boss and the employee is pure fiction made up by the boss. And it seems that the relationship is just an excuse by the boss to change a contract in a way the benefits him. Just try to change the conditions of the contract on him unexpectedly and see what your boss does. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 7:40 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
| In Korea there isn't the same weight placed on payday. Sometimes you get paid a few days later. It's commonly done. |
Why are you talking crap? |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| It might be semi common in this "industry ", but let's face it. In most schools the Korean teachers get treated far worse than the foreigners. Substantially less pay, working extra hours, cleaning etc. |
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Kristsoy
Joined: 23 Mar 2004
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 8:09 am Post subject: ... |
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| It's commonly done |
yes ur right it is commonly done
if the boss is an ass |
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lush72
Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: I am Penalty Kick!
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| VanIslander wrote: |
| In Korea there isn't the same weight placed on payday. Sometimes you get paid a few days later. It's commonly done. |
Why are you talking crap? |
NO- it is NOT commonly done.
An employer is required by law to pay 100% of wages due on the agreed pay date.
Why allow anyone to walk on you? Do you think the kiddies parents at the dayschool center can "forget the wallet"? Remember- they pay the school upfront.
You are just unlucky to have a normal scam hogwon boss. |
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