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MEDALLOKUYA



Joined: 07 Feb 2015

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:46 pm    Post subject: Buying a Scooter Questions Reply with quote

Where is the best placed to buy used scooters? Craigslist is kinda sparse.

Also, what is the resell value and how quick can people sell them?

You can buy new one's on gmarket for about 900k. Cheapest ones I saw were around 300k on craiglist.

Think a happy medium would be like 500-600k.
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Underwaterbob



Joined: 08 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just go to the scooter places. If you want to spend between 500-600k don't expect anything special or new. passo.co.kr is a good place to browse for prices. It's not too hard to navigate if you can read a little Korean.
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MEDALLOKUYA



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just looking for something decent and reliable.

how much of a learning curb is there for the manual ones?

only road a automatic before.
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of hours in a parking lot (if you can find an empty one around here) will get you familiar with shifting.

I recommend a Daerim Magma. They stopped making them in 99 or 00, so they're ancient, cheap and reliable. There are still quite a few on the road. They'll run you anywhere from 200k (beware) to 800k (it'd better be in good condition.) It's a cruiser style bike with a 125cc engine, so it's comfortable to ride and you only need a generic Korean license. Unless the law has changed since I stopped riding. I think I heard that it might have. A lot of used bike places won't even ask to see your license anyway. Take that as you will.

Daerim replaced the Magma with the Daystar. They seem to be very similar bikes, but the Daystars are newer and will cost you more.
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MEDALLOKUYA



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i get a 125cc I will need a license to buy it?

how long does that take and how much is the price?
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're going to get a used scooter, then buy one from your local bike shop. When you do that you solve these problems at once.
1. mechanic for your break down prone scooter
2. place for your fortnightly oil change
3. someone to help with all the paperwork.

IMHO used scooters are waste of money. Buy new.
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MEDALLOKUYA



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
If you're going to get a used scooter, then buy one from your local bike shop. When you do that you solve these problems at once.
1. mechanic for your break down prone scooter
2. place for your fortnightly oil change
3. someone to help with all the paperwork.

IMHO used scooters are waste of money. Buy new.


Cheapest new scooter is gonna run someone nearly 900k. Can get used ones for 400-500k.
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've owned three in ten years. All used. I had one break down in that time. My first was stolen, my second I put out to pasture because I wanted a new one and it wasn't worth selling (got 100k for turfing it anyway) and the last I sold for about half what I paid for it two years after buying it. Daerim's are the best of the cheaper options because they apparently straight-up rip off Honda's small engine design which is known for its reliability. Laughing
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MEDALLOKUYA



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does insurance pay for theft?

btw, how do I adjust the cost on passo.co.kr to only show results of like 400-600k?
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MEDALLOKUYA wrote:
Does insurance pay for theft?

btw, how do I adjust the cost on passo.co.kr to only show results of like 400-600k?


In the search section up top where you can choose make/model, there are three tabs. The third tab also lets you list by price.

I never had insurance on my first scooter. I imagine if you want insurance against theft, you can get it, but it's probably not cheap. Minimal coverage on a bike is something like 150k a year, which is cheap. Your best bet against theft is a big chain and a padlock. The scooter thieves don't seem very organized or sophisticated. Scooters left unlocked or ones without license plates seem to be the major targets. If you've got a license plate and a lock, it's pretty rare for your bike to get stolen. There are exceptions of course.
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andrewchon



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MEDALLOKUYA wrote:
andrewchon wrote:
If you're going to get a used scooter, then buy one from your local bike shop. When you do that you solve these problems at once.
1. mechanic for your break down prone scooter
2. place for your fortnightly oil change
3. someone to help with all the paperwork.

IMHO used scooters are waste of money. Buy new.


Cheapest new scooter is gonna run someone nearly 900k. Can get used ones for 400-500k.


Wanna bet how many km you're gonna get before the drive-train karks it? Do you have the expertise to see all the things that can go wrong on a scooter? Laughing

Other things to consider:
This is Korea, people judge you by your appearance. If you ride a cheap scooter, other drivers on the road will treat you accordingly: cheap. They don't have to pay much in insurance in case of accident. You on a scooter is small compared to say, a car. You will be pushed around on the road and that's not good.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
This is Korea, people judge you by your appearance. If you ride a cheap scooter, other drivers on the road will treat you accordingly: cheap. They don't have to pay much in insurance in case of accident. You on a scooter is small compared to say, a car. You will be pushed around on the road and that's not good.

Most Koreans also associate scooters with cheap food delivery, very poor families, & 3rd-world countries. That could affect their perception of you.
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MEDALLOKUYA



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, good thing for me I could care less about what any Korean thinks of me regarding me riding a scooter.
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Mr. Peabody



Joined: 24 Sep 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MEDALLOKUYA wrote:
How much of a learning curb is there? Only road a automatic before.

Well, good thing for me I could care less about what any Korean thinks of me regarding me riding a scooter.


The learning curb depends on the difference between your skill, the street and the sidewalk, but discovering it would be very painful. Just ask Gary Busey!

Also, the fact that you could care less will come in handy if you get run off the road and land on the aforementioned learning curb!
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Stan Rogers



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He said "learning curb".

Laughing
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