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sirius black
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Boehner was wrong on all kinds of levels for inviting Netanayu and the 47 Senators were wrong on all kinds of levels (protocol, etc. ) and possibly legal for that stunt.
The role of the Senate isn't the issue in terms of approving treatiies, agreements. Its the ACT of sending that letter.
The Dems are spineless cowards for one. Obviously the tea party types put thier view above respect for the office, protocol, decency and possibly the law.
Cotton who was a combat military vet dishonors his service by not respecting 'chain of command'.
Its a farce. when it comes to Obama, rules, law, respect doesn't count. The most unAmerican congress in a 150 years. Only Andrew Johnson's Congress was this obstrcutionist but at least they were doing it because Johnson was a segregationist racist. |
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Location: Don't hate me because I'm right
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| sirius black wrote: |
The Dems are spineless cowards for one. Obviously the tea party types put thier view above respect for the office, protocol, decency and possibly the law.
Cotton who was a combat military vet dishonors his service by not respecting 'chain of command'.
Its a farce. when it comes to Obama, rules, law, respect doesn't count. The most unAmerican congress in a 150 years. Only Andrew Johnson's Congress was this obstrcutionist but at least they were doing it because Johnson was a segregationist racist. |
Nice post. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| W.T.Carl wrote: |
| Baloney! They just wanted to point out what Article II Section 2 of the US Constitution says. If Obama signs it and the Senate doesn't approve it, it doesn't mean crap. Obama can wipe his butt with it, for all it's worth. |
Doesn't matter in this case. Allowing Iran or any Shia country to have nuclear weapons is insane, nuts. It's enough to make me vote republican at the next election. Enough is enough of these nutcakes demanding respect. |
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Plain Meaning
Joined: 18 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| W.T.Carl wrote: |
| Baloney! They just wanted to point out what Article II Section 2 of the US Constitution says. If Obama signs it and the Senate doesn't approve it, it doesn't mean crap. Obama can wipe his butt with it, for all it's worth. |
Doesn't matter in this case. Allowing Iran or any Shia country to have nuclear weapons is insane, nuts. It's enough to make me vote republican at the next election. Enough is enough of these nutcakes demanding respect. |
No. The proposed deal aims at keeping Iran from becoming a nuclear weapons power.
Iran nuclear talks hit bumps; U.S. foresees lasting curbs on Tehran
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In Washington, Deputy Secretary of State Antony Blinken sought to ease concern that Iran would be free to build a nuclear weapon when the expected agreement expires in a decade or more.
Blinken said Iran's nuclear activities would face a variety of restrictions indefinitely, including tough monitoring and inspections, to thwart any attempt by Tehran to build a bomb.
“Some constraints would be removed after a significant period of time, others would remain in effect even longer, and some would last indefinitely, including a stringent and intrusive monitoring and inspections regime,” Blinken told the House Foreign Affairs Committee. |
Its the standard offer for non-nuclear states under the Non-Proliferation Treaty. Iran will receive nuclear materials and technology for peaceful enrichment in exchange for Iran's commitment to avoid nuclear weapon development and its agreement to monitoring and inspections. |
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W.T.Carl
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| And you think Iran can be trusted? Please................... And in 1938, Adolf kept his word with Chamberlain. Only then Adolf didn't want nukes and ICBMs. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| I'm curious, W.T.Carl - what would you have us do? Attack Iran? |
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W.T.Carl
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Just get out of the way........................ |
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W.T.Carl
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Just get out of the way........................ |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Get out of the way of whom? |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| W.T.Carl wrote: |
| Baloney! They just wanted to point out what Article II Section 2 of the US Constitution says. If Obama signs it and the Senate doesn't approve it, it doesn't mean crap. Obama can wipe his butt with it, for all it's worth. |
Doesn't matter in this case. Allowing Iran or any Shia country to have nuclear weapons is insane, nuts. It's enough to make me vote republican at the next election. Enough is enough of these nutcakes demanding respect. |
Uh why? And there are only two countries in the world that have Shiites running their governments, not exactly a lot out there.
It sounds like you've been in Saudi Arabia too long... |
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Plain Meaning
Joined: 18 Oct 2014
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W.T. Carl thinks that allowing Israel to bomb Iran will prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon, when such an attack will emphasize their need for a nuclear weapon, and encourage them to redouble their efforts in the long-term.
W.T. Carl and his fellow travelers really want regime change in Iran. Those of us who truly seek to forestall an Iranian nuclear weapons program support this deal, because this deal is the best opportunity to keep Iran from developing a nuclear weapon. |
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W.T.Carl
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:00 am Post subject: |
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| And this agreement sure as Hell won't do it. |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
Location: In between the lines
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| US constitution is great on paper, like communism. The reality is such that it is followed only if and when it's convenient |
True.
Hopefully, one day, Americans will realize that those in power are merely two sides of the same coin. |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| W.T.Carl wrote: |
| And you think Iran can be trusted? Please................... And in 1938, Adolf kept his word with Chamberlain. Only then Adolf didn't want nukes and ICBMs. |
Wow. Another Chamberlain reference.
No evidence Iran is pursuing nukes anyways. |
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W.T.Carl
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| Neither did North Korea................... |
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