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actionjackson
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 Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 5:52 pm Post subject: It looks like a Korean might win it again... |
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I know this doesn't really mean anything to anyone but wasn't it made into a pretty big deal when Rain won it a couple of years ago?
http://time.com/3747739/time-100-poll-results/ |
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Neil
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| Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| After Gangnam Style I would have thought all the F5 buttons on Korean keyboards would be worn out by now. |
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Steelrails
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| Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Neil wrote: |
| After Gangnam Style I would have thought all the F5 buttons on Korean keyboards would be worn out by now. |
Yes, Gangnam style's popularity was clearly a Korean cyber campaign, not some random viral video blow up.
You also have to remember that the populations of North and SE Asia, which are Kpop's biggest strongholds are significantly larger than that of North America. It's not just Koreans, and Chinese and other Asian's celebrity favorites are just as valid as westerners. It's no more wrong for them to pick CL than it is for us to pick Lady Gaga.
That being said both of those are wrong, because Vladimir Putin, Benjamin Netanyahu, and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi are the proper finalists. |
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The Cosmic Hum
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| Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Yes, Gangnam style's popularity was clearly a Korean cyber campaign, not some random viral video blow up. |
They say the first step is acknowledging the problem.
You have now taken the first step.
Step two...keep repeating step one. |
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Steelrails
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| Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Right, because somehow the Korean government mind-rayed people all over the world from the US to Russia to China to India to watch the thing and have been able to duplicate the phenomenon time and time again to similar effect. |
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The Cosmic Hum
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Right, because somehow the Korean government mind-rayed people all over the world from the US to Russia to China to India to watch the thing and have been able to duplicate the phenomenon time and time again to similar effect. |
Well, we don't have to exaggerate even that much.
How about this...
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| Yes, Gangnam style's popularity was clearly a random viral video blow up, supported by a Korean cyber campaign. |
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Steelrails
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Gangnam Style blew up because of people around the world and some tweet by some rapper.
It didn't blow up because of Korean netizens and the Korean government. Netizen fans follow Big Bang, 2NE1 and stuff like that, not Psy who had been around for over a decade and is not an industry favorite.
Suggesting Gangnam Style was all because of some nefarious youtube hit count campaign is tin hat territory. |
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The Cosmic Hum
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
Gangnam Style blew up because of people around the world and some tweet by some rapper.
It didn't blow up because of Korean netizens and the Korean government. Netizen fans follow Big Bang, 2NE1 and stuff like that, not Psy who had been around for over a decade and is not an industry favorite.
Suggesting Gangnam Style was all because of some nefarious youtube hit count campaign is tin hat territory. |
Ok...last time...and just for fun...right?
No slight intended.
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| Suggesting Gangnam Style was not in part because of some nefarious youtube hit count campaign is tin hat territory. |
Your continued use of absolute adverbials of frequency is not without merit when deliberately misdirecting meaning, attempting to prolong an internet debate, but this one was done already.
Cheers |
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actionjackson
Joined: 30 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Gangnam Style blew up because of people around the world and some tweet by some rapper. |
I agree with you on this part. A lot of people wanted to see the video everyone was talking about, some funny Korean guy doing a silly dance.
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| Suggesting Gangnam Style was all because of some nefarious youtube hit count campaign is tin hat territory. |
This part I'm not so sure about. When the video started to get to the most views ever, I'm not totally sold.
* I should also add that I believe many of the views for videos in the top 5 most viewed videos are somewhat inflated, but I could be wrong. |
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Steelrails
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
Gangnam Style blew up because of people around the world and some tweet by some rapper.
It didn't blow up because of Korean netizens and the Korean government. Netizen fans follow Big Bang, 2NE1 and stuff like that, not Psy who had been around for over a decade and is not an industry favorite.
Suggesting Gangnam Style was all because of some nefarious youtube hit count campaign is tin hat territory. |
Ok...last time...and just for fun...right?
No slight intended.
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| Suggesting Gangnam Style was not in part because of some nefarious youtube hit count campaign is tin hat territory. |
Your continued use of absolute adverbials of frequency is not without merit when deliberately misdirecting meaning, attempting to prolong an internet debate, but this one was done already.
Cheers |
Oh. I see what you're getting at now.
Okay, point taken. That was worded poorly and too absolute.
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This part I'm not so sure about. When the video started to get to the most views ever, I'm not totally sold.
* I should also add that I believe many of the views for videos in the top 5 most viewed videos are somewhat inflated, but I could be wrong. |
I dunno, I mean, was it really just a bunch of Koreans sitting around hitting the video? I don't think think Psy really had a legion of followers at the time. Sure, a bunch of Koreans were watching it again and again, but I think it was because they wanted to watch it again and again. I mean it was a truly massive global viral phenomenon. When you're spawning million hit parody videos, I think that might indicate that your numbers are genuine. |
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