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Norway deporting immigrants
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trueblue



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I applaude Norway...

...if only the U.S. would throw out the same garbage.
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Cave Dweller



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Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish UK would do it. Start chucking out the mysogynist trash that bullies single women walking around East London, Rotterdam, and other places.


trueblue wrote:
I applaude Norway...

...if only the U.S. would throw out the same garbage.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Norway is for Norwegians and if they want to enact restrictive laws, that is the choice of their people and their sovereign government.

However, people from the USA, Canada, Australia, S. Africa, and New Zealand should think long and hard about rejecting immigrants for a few bad acts. Their respective indigenous populations might have a few thoughts on that. After all, their claims on the land in many cases are still valid as much of the acquisition was done in violation of treaty and at the threat of force.
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happyinhenan



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="bigverne"]
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Gypsies are native to the UK


Roma from Eastern Europe are native to the UK?

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Immigration has benefitted the UK and I see racial diversity as a plus.


Reading comprehension fail - massive one.

Nowhere did he talk about Roma - there are gypsies that are native to the UK.

Big Verne, the man who hates immigration but makes his living as an immigrant and will die as one as he festers away in a Spanish villa. A crappier hypocrite you are less likely to meet.
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bigverne



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nowhere did he talk about Roma - there are gypsies that are native to the UK.


I brought up the gypsy question, and specifically referred to Eastern European Roma.

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Big Verne, the man who hates immigration but makes his living as an immigrant and will die as one as he festers away in a Spanish villa. A crappier hypocrite you are less likely to meet.


Childish ad hominem.
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Adventurer



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Norway deporting immigrants Reply with quote

Cave Dweller wrote:
http://www.norwaypost.com/index.php/news/latest-news/30293


http://qpolitical.com/norway-just-deported-824-muslims-every-american-needs-to-see-what-happened-next/


I figured this is worth debating. The left wing of course is calling this racist. The right wing is calling it appropriate. Thoughts?


It's one thing to have immigrants of any religion, and another calling for violence and supporting extreme views. They can go espouse those views elsewhere.
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happyinhenan



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigverne wrote:

I brought up the gypsy question, and specifically referred to Eastern European Roma.


Yes, but you quoted a correct fact made by him which was there are gypsies that are native to the UK. That is it.

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Big Verne, the man who hates immigration but makes his living as an immigrant and will die as one as he festers away in a Spanish villa. A crappier hypocrite you are less likely to meet.


Childish ad hominem.[/quote]

But true. Still in Korea working as an immigrant whilst making a living from encouraging cultural expansion of the English language.

And you are going to retire to a Spanish villa? Do you not think that is relevant to your oft aired views? I think it is - when are you going to return to your lovely England to live amongst all those other wonderful English people that you want to save from 'multi-culturalism'?
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bigverne



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But true. Still in Korea working as an immigrant whilst making a living from encouraging cultural expansion of the English language.


It don't 'hate immigration,' and I have no intention of living in a villa in Spain, though that does sound lovely. You must have me confused with someone else. Nor, do I work to 'encourage the cultural expansion of the English language.' Perhaps, you could try to add something to the debate, rather than engage in these unsubstantiated ad hominems.
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le-paul



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
Chaparrastique wrote:
Muslims are a ticking time bomb. Most are law-abiding but ultimately their communities are led and directed by extreme elements. Their aim is to make the whole world islamic and they've certainly succeeded with half the globe already. Non-muslim immigrants are fine though.


The funny thing about this is that most of North America's homegrown terrorists have mostly belonged to YouTube communities.


The even funnier thing is that when you look at the evidence and witness testimonies that incriminated most of the home grown terrorists, most of them weren't even terrorists.

20 years in Guantanamo should learn them.
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young_clinton



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.T.Carl wrote:
It's real easy: come into a country illegally and you will get kicked out. Commit a crime and you will go to jail and THEN you will get kicked out. Advocate the overthrow of the government and you will get thrown out. Demand that the country change to suit your religion and you will get thrown out. These people must be made to see that they are guest in your country and should behave like guest.


Yes absolutely, even if the Muslim is a citizen.
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young_clinton



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

le-paul wrote:


20 years in Guantanamo should learn them.


Life in Guantanamo would have learned Al Bagdadi. Hopefully we don't make the same mistake again.

Go back to where you came from.
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young_clinton



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chaparrastique wrote:
Muslims are a ticking time bomb. Most are law-abiding but ultimately their communities are led and directed by extreme elements. Their aim is to make the whole world islamic and they've certainly succeeded with half the globe already. Non-muslim immigrants are fine though.


Increasing Western dislike of Muslim communities is a worse ticking time bomb for Muslims. In Saudi Arabia I would hear my English coffee friend say it was going to be Nazi backlash time soon. The Muslim communities should never have been allowed to become as large as they are. Was it really a surprise when the Muslims refused to assimilate? The Muslims aren't able to understand what eventually happens when you have annoying colonies saying they dislike their adoptive country in some cases even making threats and trying to establish Sharia law. They are so backwards they should not be allowed to remain.
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sirius black



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really isn't a moslem issue. Its a socio-economic issue. America has been letting in moslems from the middle east for a while now. Since '60s from the '70s forward, there are a a few million arabs/moslems that have immigrated to America. Why doesn't America have the same issues? Its not because of size and they absorb in.
Its because America 'cherry-picked' which arabs to let in. They came educated, with money and middle class or upper class. The arab american family income is markedly higher than the Average american family income.
Europe let in immigrants for two main reasons. One, is that the native peoples standard of living increased to a point where they no longer wanted to do the DDD jobs. They imported or let in foreigners for those jobs. Those foreigners were often undereducated, poor, etc. Second, all countries with a european majority (code word white) has a low birthrate and needed the bodies. Every country that has a european majority has a zero/negative birthrate. So, all this meant that the immitrants were more likely not to fit in as opposed to America where they were educated, had a good command of english and either worked professionally (engineers, etc.) or had the capital to start their own businesses.
England is a different issue. Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bengladesh were former colonies and they let in the masses. Mostly under educated, poor, etc. and they found it hard to assimilate and get decent jobs.
The problem for the arab americans is that their kids are fitting in too nicely and the inter-faith marriages, especially of their daughters is so high that many are starting their own schools to thwart the process.
For example, the Persians in the Valley section of LA have started their own schools in part because many of thei daugters don't want to marry Iranian guys. The culture's patriarchal system isn't liked becaus they experience egalitarianism in America.
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Bongotruck



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

after seeing the thousands among thousands of refugee wannabes crossing the sea into Italy last week alone, maybe Norway has it right.

All this PC culture and being nice is bankrupting the west. Its time to say enough is enough.
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happyinhenan



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bongotruck wrote:
after seeing the thousands among thousands of refugee wannabes crossing the sea into Italy last week alone, maybe Norway has it right.

All this PC culture and being nice is bankrupting the west. Its time to say enough is enough.


Yeah?

As long as capitalism exists and there is a 'first' and a 'third' tier world, the majority of the people in the 'third' world will try and make their life in the 'first'.

None of it is complicated. Make their lives better in the 'third' world where they can live their life with some relative comfort and they will stay there.
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