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andejes



Joined: 01 May 2015
Location: Chicago, IL

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 7:11 am    Post subject: Should a 38 year old woman chuck her US office job... Reply with quote

and look for employment in Korea? I've just finished my CELTA, have volunteered teaching children and have mathematics and professional degree. However after reading so much about the Korean economy over the last 10 months and it being an employers market, should I even leave my stability and do this? Thanks in advanced for your thoughts.
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kingplaya4



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The monetary gains claimed on here are not anywhere near what are advertised. If you're coming to save a bunch of money, I'd probably stick with your job, since raises are extremely rare these days here.

If you're really into K-pop, absolutely hate your job, have some connection to Korea or you want to parlay two years of experience here into a better job in another country later on, you might want to consider coming here. Emphasis on the might. My main complaints about living here these days are inflation, lack of a chance for advancement, lack of sick days (it's a big no-no here) and a general lack of time off.
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andejes



Joined: 01 May 2015
Location: Chicago, IL

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 7:30 am    Post subject: Thanks kingplaya4 Reply with quote

for your reply. If you can say, how many hours a week are you working (including prep time) and how much time is off do you get on average?
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Chaparrastique



Joined: 01 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My advice is........no.

Your job security and professional development in your own home country is worth far more to you, economically and in terms of well-being, than any esl job in Korea.

If its adventure, a rewarding experience or intercultural experience you're after, then head for South America or Europe. Africa, even.

But Korea? Hoosh. As an intercultural experience is mostly average; at worst, utterly frustrating and stressful. Its money-saving value has declined massively in real terms. Work conditions continue to decline. It was worth it five years ago. Now its just hard graft with not much reward.

ESL is in decline. But if you are determined to try it.. then China is the place to start out now.
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andejes



Joined: 01 May 2015
Location: Chicago, IL

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 7:38 am    Post subject: europe Reply with quote

would be very difficult for me as I don't have an EU passport. I've not considered South America before but will start investigating.

Thanks
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kabrams



Joined: 15 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should uncover why you want to leave in the first place, and what you'd like to do in your career/how you'd like to use Korea for your career. Do some backwards planning.

Where do you want to be in 5 years? Does Korea fit into that? If so, how? If you can make it work (realistically) and have an end-goal in mind, I absolutely say going to Korea is a good idea.
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lowpo



Joined: 01 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kabrams wrote:
You should uncover why you want to leave in the first place, and what you'd like to do in your career/how you'd like to use Korea for your career. Do some backwards planning.

Where do you want to be in 5 years? Does Korea fit into that? If so, how? If you can make it work (realistically) and have an end-goal in mind, I absolutely say going to Korea is a good idea.


If you decide to teach ESL in a different country, you really need to be smart with your money! I started teaching in China at 41 and come to Korea at 43.
The previous posters are right that Korea is a little unstable in the public school sector. I have been noticing mainly in the small to medium size Hogwan market that they are hiring more older teachers.
In China you will have to work harder that in Korea. In China you also have the opporunity to start your own business or switch from ESL to a regular comany job.
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Bongotruck



Joined: 19 Mar 2015

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed with most of the sentiment on this thread. Unless you have some particular connection to Korea, dont bother.

It sounds like a wonderful adventure but once the shine wears off, its not wonderful nor an adventure.
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My advice is .... YES!

Especially if your office job is like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy3rjQGc6lA

Working in Korea, although not making you rich, will afford you a lot of free time.

Take a public school job as an example. You are done by 4pm and provided with (typically) 2 months paid vacation.

Cool
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bongotruck wrote:
Agreed with most of the sentiment on this thread. Unless you have some particular connection to Korea, dont bother.

It sounds like a wonderful adventure but once the shine wears off, its not wonderful nor an adventure.


I agree. If you want want to dabble in teaching it might be better to find a volunteer position in your city or town. Many immigrant organizations look for volunteer English teachers. Also, if you do want to visit Korea then, if you have the money, go on vacation here.
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Chaparrastique



Joined: 01 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:

Working in Korea, although not making you rich, will afford you a lot of free time.

Take a public school job as an example. You are done by 4pm and provided with (typically) 2 months paid vacation.

Cool


Working in China will make you rich and give you lots of free time.

Take a Chinese public school school job as an example. You will save US$ 2500 a month without trying and you usually get 3 months paid vacation in the summer.
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SeoulMan6



Joined: 27 Jul 2005
Location: Gangwon-do

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope you take people's responses with a grain of salt. There is a silent majority who enjoy their time here.

You can save money, have an adventure, make friends, and maybe even start a new life. Come with an open mind and you will be fine. Even if it turns out to not be your cup of tea, almost anyone can stick it out for a year.
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: Should a 38 year old woman chuck her US office job... Reply with quote

andejes wrote:
and look for employment in Korea? I've just finished my CELTA, have volunteered teaching children and have mathematics and professional degree.

China. With these credentials I think you'll find more offers there. Not so many schools here looking for math teachers. (I know you didn't say you were wanting to teach math, but you should check out the job postings.)

A few years ago, I'd have said, sure, come on over. But these days...

What is your professional degree in? You just mean in an unrelated field?
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GENO123



Joined: 28 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
My advice is .... YES!

Especially if your office job is like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy3rjQGc6lA

Working in Korea, although not making you rich, will afford you a lot of free time.

Take a public school job as an example. You are done by 4pm and provided with (typically) 2 months paid vacation.

Cool



Sigh...
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lowpo wrote:
kabrams wrote:
You should uncover why you want to leave in the first place, and what you'd like to do in your career/how you'd like to use Korea for your career. Do some backwards planning.

Where do you want to be in 5 years? Does Korea fit into that? If so, how? If you can make it work (realistically) and have an end-goal in mind, I absolutely say going to Korea is a good idea.


If you decide to teach ESL in a different country, you really need to be smart with your money! I started teaching in China at 41 and come to Korea at 43.
The previous posters are right that Korea is a little unstable in the public school sector. I have been noticing mainly in the small to medium size Hogwan market that they are hiring more older teachers.
In China you will have to work harder that in Korea. In China you also have the opporunity to start your own business or switch from ESL to a regular comany job.


Really? Wouldn't the opposite be true?
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