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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 3:20 pm    Post subject: How long will you be in Korea? Reply with quote

When I first went to Korea in 2003, I met a co-worker half-way through a second contract, and I thought, "wow, she's lived here a long time" - ha, ha it was only 18 months. Not many people stayed for a second year then, many people didn't even make a year. I remember people that cracked up and left after like nine months. [One guy phoned in his quitting from the airport departure lounge].

About six months in I went to a staff meeting of people from other branches. I asked these two guys, "so are you going to do another year?" And they were like, "hell no." That was the prevailing attitude at the time.

So it was a very short term thing then. I doubt on average people even stayed through one contract.

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I guess things have changed. So what I'm curious about is, how long do you plan to stay in Korea in total? Do people arrive with 3 year plans, say?
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nicwr2002



Joined: 17 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I planned to come here for just a year, but now it has been 4 years...
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chrisinkorea2011



Joined: 16 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive been here for 5 years and love it. Plan on staying another 10, then using my hard earned savings to purchase a big plot of land in another country and sit my ass down and relax at the ripe old age of 40 lol
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember the average intake for epik pre-2008-ish was 100 to 200 for the whole country. Only about 10% wanted to renew, and most were. Of the 90% that didn't renew, I'd guess a good quarter (minimum) of them didn't last the full 12 months. The ages of people varied from a 21 to 55, with the bulk being in their mid-20's.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I came to Korea for a year and that was 14 years ago.

No plan to return home yet (but a year off (again) while sitting on a beach somewhere might be nice.

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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I honestly cannot answer the question because I just don't know. I have many good reasons to stay and don't have many good reasons to leave.

I originally planned to stay for a year or two but that was a long time ago.
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BigBuds



Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Came here in 2001 for a year. Still here.
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J Rock



Joined: 17 Jan 2009
Location: The center of the Earth, Suji

PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I came here and wanted to stay for a year or 2, then met a girl, had a kid, now its been 9 years of ups and downs. One day I think it's the best place ever, another day i'm thinking about jumping out a window.

I would like for us to move back to Michigan but she is worried about missing her family which I understand. I'm worried about trying to find a job back home with ESL being my only experience for the last 9ish years.

Wife does have a good job, and her family helps us out a lot so we are saving good money, around 30 Million a year.

My dream is for to save as much as we can and retire early on a beach. Her dream is to save and spend it all on our kid, buying a nice apartment when he gets married. I can see this being a big arguement in a couple years.
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has been 12 years since I arrived in Korea, not knowing anything about the people, culture or anything else concerning Asia. Today, I have dual citizenship, a flourishing business, and plenty of opportunity to live out my life here where the conditions are in many ways better than I had back in the home country. I never say never, but Korea has been good for me and to me, so living here until the end seems more and more likely every year.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: How long will you be in Korea? Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
When I first went to Korea in 2003, I met a co-worker half-way through a second contract, and I thought, "wow, she's lived here a long time" - ha, ha it was only 18 months. Not many people stayed for a second year then, many people didn't even make a year. I remember people that cracked up and left after like nine months. [One guy phoned in his quitting from the airport departure lounge].

About six months in I went to a staff meeting of people from other branches. I asked these two guys, "so are you going to do another year?" And they were like, "hell no." That was the prevailing attitude at the time.

So it was a very short term thing then. I doubt on average people even stayed through one contract.

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I guess things have changed. So what I'm curious about is, how long do you plan to stay in Korea in total? Do people arrive with 3 year plans, say?


Well, consider a few factors. The ESL market in Korea is declining as evidenced by the growing difficulty for people to get jobs lately and the bigger influx of expats as a whole.

I think perhaps that your sample had a bias. I've met PLENTY of expats who ended up staying FAR longer than planned because of reasons like 1) met a girlfriend and/or got married; 2) liked it and kept on staying; 3) hated Korea but for some reason kept renewing; 4) and a few realized that Korea would have the best job situation they could hope for.

I'm sure plenty of people have either done a runner or just stayed a year, but more often than not, I've seen PLENTY of people who've stayed far longer than planned.
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DaeguNL



Joined: 08 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chrisinkorea2011 wrote:
ive been here for 5 years and love it. Plan on staying another 10, then using my hard earned savings to purchase a big plot of land in another country and sit my ass down and relax at the ripe old age of 40 lol


I am pretty much in the same boat. Retire somewhere warm, where the won goes a long way. No kids and retire at 40, or kids and retire at 50.....
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DaeguNL



Joined: 08 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J Rock wrote:
I came here and wanted to stay for a year or 2, then met a girl, had a kid, now its been 9 years of ups and downs. One day I think it's the best place ever, another day i'm thinking about jumping out a window.

I would like for us to move back to Michigan but she is worried about missing her family which I understand. I'm worried about trying to find a job back home with ESL being my only experience for the last 9ish years.

Wife does have a good job, and her family helps us out a lot so we are saving good money, around 30 Million a year.

My dream is for to save as much as we can and retire early on a beach. Her dream is to save and spend it all on our kid, buying a nice apartment when he gets married. I can see this being a big arguement in a couple years.


wow, throw down your life savings on an apartment for your child?
I think I got $1000 from my parents haha
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Qonny



Joined: 28 Oct 2014

PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaeguNL wrote:
J Rock wrote:
I came here and wanted to stay for a year or 2, then met a girl, had a kid, now its been 9 years of ups and downs. One day I think it's the best place ever, another day i'm thinking about jumping out a window.

I would like for us to move back to Michigan but she is worried about missing her family which I understand. I'm worried about trying to find a job back home with ESL being my only experience for the last 9ish years.

Wife does have a good job, and her family helps us out a lot so we are saving good money, around 30 Million a year.

My dream is for to save as much as we can and retire early on a beach. Her dream is to save and spend it all on our kid, buying a nice apartment when he gets married. I can see this being a big arguement in a couple years.


wow, throw down your life savings on an apartment for your child?
I think I got $1000 from my parents haha


I got $500.
Although my Dad always fixed my car for free, being a mechanic.

I can't fathom my parents buying me an apartment, or me letting them buy it for me. I would be embarressed. Unless they were ultra rich.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qonny wrote:
DaeguNL wrote:
J Rock wrote:
I came here and wanted to stay for a year or 2, then met a girl, had a kid, now its been 9 years of ups and downs. One day I think it's the best place ever, another day i'm thinking about jumping out a window.

I would like for us to move back to Michigan but she is worried about missing her family which I understand. I'm worried about trying to find a job back home with ESL being my only experience for the last 9ish years.

Wife does have a good job, and her family helps us out a lot so we are saving good money, around 30 Million a year.

My dream is for to save as much as we can and retire early on a beach. Her dream is to save and spend it all on our kid, buying a nice apartment when he gets married. I can see this being a big arguement in a couple years.


wow, throw down your life savings on an apartment for your child?
I think I got $1000 from my parents haha


I got $500.
Although my Dad always fixed my car for free, being a mechanic.

I can't fathom my parents buying me an apartment, or me letting them buy it for me. I would be embarressed. Unless they were ultra rich.


And this is why the rich get richer and the poor stay poor, all while bitching about the rich staying rich.
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
Qonny wrote:
DaeguNL wrote:
J Rock wrote:
I came here and wanted to stay for a year or 2, then met a girl, had a kid, now its been 9 years of ups and downs. One day I think it's the best place ever, another day i'm thinking about jumping out a window.

I would like for us to move back to Michigan but she is worried about missing her family which I understand. I'm worried about trying to find a job back home with ESL being my only experience for the last 9ish years.

Wife does have a good job, and her family helps us out a lot so we are saving good money, around 30 Million a year.

My dream is for to save as much as we can and retire early on a beach. Her dream is to save and spend it all on our kid, buying a nice apartment when he gets married. I can see this being a big arguement in a couple years.


wow, throw down your life savings on an apartment for your child?
I think I got $1000 from my parents haha


I got $500.
Although my Dad always fixed my car for free, being a mechanic.

I can't fathom my parents buying me an apartment, or me letting them buy it for me. I would be embarressed. Unless they were ultra rich.


And this is why the rich get richer and the poor stay poor, all while bitching about the rich staying rich.

I don't follow your logic.
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