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chellovek
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| ..as well as the SOLE reason the flag was at these state houses in the '50s and '60s was in opposition to granting legal equality to the same people they enslaved. You can't it up. Its amazing its even a debate and the bullsh*t argument of the various states its about some honorable thing as the reason they erected it up in the first place. Its on the SC statehouse because they opposed equality to blacks. End of story. |
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guavashake
Joined: 09 Nov 2013
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:30 am Post subject: |
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What Pisses Me Off About The Confederate Flag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz6bVde-rpQ
Stefan Molyneux looks at the reality of the situation, and breaks down what’s said – and what’s not being said. |
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Plain Meaning
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:46 am Post subject: |
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| chellovek wrote: |
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| trueblue wrote: |
Netflix took off Dukes of Hazard
Walmart has stopped selling anything with the flag on it
Places that have a tradition of flying the flag, such as NASCAR venues have been asking fans to stop flying them, along with the sporting venue being forced to take theirs down
Amazon has banned anything that has anything to do with the flag
That is only the beginning. |
All choices made by private businesses. |
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The point being, private businesses or citizens can do what they want, display the flag or not. But that flag has no business flying over government buildings or on government grounds. |
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I was just querying this, generally American, assumption that a private choice is somehow sanctified because it is made by a private individual or establishment. I understand the thinking, but private choices are not somehow right by virtue of being the choice of a private entity.
I vaguely understand and sympathise with the folk who say it's to do with heritage, for good and ill it's part of the history of these parts. Like I say, as an outsider living here, I tend to view it as being more trouble than it has been shown to be worth. Gunning folk down in churches? It's simply not the right thing to do. |
There is a huge difference between South Carolina's sovereign speech as the police power and Billy Bob's speech. In the case of Walmart and Apple, their speech is not the police power but we might still find them harder to ignore and more troublesome than Billy Bob's fetish over his "heritage." |
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guavashake
Joined: 09 Nov 2013
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Joined: 18 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, no to renaming DC.
I think if you want me to expand on why I oppose renaming Washington, D.C. or demolishing the memorials to slave-holders, then you might make a new thread. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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That's hardly a representative sample of the District's population, now, is it? It's not a scientific poll and the journalist actually suggested "maybe take a poll." The viewer has no idea how many other people were interviewed and what they had to say. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:12 am Post subject: |
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DC's nickname is Chocolate City, but these days no race is over 50% here. That dude is 10+ years behind the times.... |
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chellovek
Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
DC's nickname is Chocolate City, but these days no race is over 50% here. That dude is 10+ years behind the times.... |
More like Scary Homeless People City. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| chellovek wrote: |
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DC's nickname is Chocolate City, but these days no race is over 50% here. That dude is 10+ years behind the times.... |
More like Scary Homeless People City. |
Really? Franklin Square has a bunch of homeless people, but I don't really see them elsewhere (although I am aware there is a significant # in the District). NYC, on the other hand, is starting to look like the pre-giuliani days... |
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chellovek
Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| chellovek wrote: |
| bucheon bum wrote: |
DC's nickname is Chocolate City, but these days no race is over 50% here. That dude is 10+ years behind the times.... |
More like Scary Homeless People City. |
Really? Franklin Square has a bunch of homeless people, but I don't really see them elsewhere (although I am aware there is a significant # in the District). NYC, on the other hand, is starting to look like the pre-giuliani days... |
Well, I'm being a bit facetious, I live several hours away from DC so I don't know too well what it's really like. But walking from Union Station one night with my wife, yielded a good crop of scary homeless people. There was a bunch of them living in tents under one bridge we walked past. Quite surly angry-looking people. |
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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| chellovek wrote: |
| bucheon bum wrote: |
DC's nickname is Chocolate City, but these days no race is over 50% here. That dude is 10+ years behind the times.... |
More like Scary Homeless People City. |
Really? Franklin Square has a bunch of homeless people, but I don't really see them elsewhere (although I am aware there is a significant # in the District). NYC, on the other hand, is starting to look like the pre-giuliani days... |
San Francisco has them all beat in the homeless sweepstakes. |
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chellovek
Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| radcon wrote: |
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| chellovek wrote: |
| bucheon bum wrote: |
DC's nickname is Chocolate City, but these days no race is over 50% here. That dude is 10+ years behind the times.... |
More like Scary Homeless People City. |
Really? Franklin Square has a bunch of homeless people, but I don't really see them elsewhere (although I am aware there is a significant # in the District). NYC, on the other hand, is starting to look like the pre-giuliani days... |
San Francisco has them all beat in the homeless sweepstakes. |
Yes, yes, and yes. UN Plaza was like some post-apocalyptic scene.
I wouldn't dare slow my pace, the one moment I slowed to look at my map, someone was right on me begging for money. |
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Fallacy
Joined: 29 Jun 2015
Location: ex-ROK
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| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| The flag of treason & hate flies in S Carolina's capitol |
Not any more, after the recent legislative vote. |
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guavashake
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trueblue
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Location: In between the lines
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| ...that does not surprise me, one bit. |
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