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oatmeal



Joined: 26 Nov 2013

PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:45 pm    Post subject: Might want to leave school midway or break contract Reply with quote

The first couple years were glorious, the last couple years it's been
just going downhill since. There are things I still love about the job
and my school, but overall, I have found that I am no longer happy and everyday I'm feeling angry, frustrated, agitated, you get the picture.
This isn't an overnight decision, but one I have been thinking about for years now.

I don't think it's good for me to be angry/unhappy everyday. I also feel bad for the kids that I'm not in a good mood, therefore do not give it my best like I used to, and instead I'm finding I just want to whisk through everything and shortchanging their english education. I'm just at a point where I need to have a break. I'm not sure I can last until the end of the contract which is february, but I'm trying really hard to.

So my question is what happens if I decide to quit at the end of august?
Do I have to return some money (ie. the contract renewal bonus, the airfare bonus)? What happens to my severance and pension? Are those also cut in half or do they penalize you and take the entire year's pension/severance away?

Will I still be able to get my severance owing to me for the past 3 years and my pension for the past 5 years? Do I need to leave the country to get my pension or can I get it after I quit the school job?

Is anyone interested in possibly replacing me or swapping jobs? I was thinking trying to just transfer/swap with someone for just 6 months so that at least I can still finish out the contract, just in a different school. That would be ideal for me rather than to actually quit completely. That might also look bad on my resume or for future school jobs.

I need some advice, and I need to know what happens to my finances if I quit midway or if I can find a transfer?
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Porksta



Joined: 05 May 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Severance is prorated for the entire time you have worked, assuming you haven't gotten it early at any point during your employment. Pension cannot be touched, you get the full amount but you have to leave Korea to claim it. I am also assuming you are American. As for the contract renewal bonus and swapping jobs, it sounds like you are in public school so I can't help you there. I am sure your contract says something about it.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's 6 more months. Do the time, collect your severance, and head for a chill area in SE Asia to recharge your batteries and figure out your options. You'll REALLY need it by then, so it'll be all the more satisfying.

Why deal with the extra questions and headaches involved by bailing a few months early.
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:29 am    Post subject: Re: Might want to leave school midway or break contract Reply with quote

oatmeal wrote:
This isn't an overnight decision, but one I have been thinking about for years now.

If you've been thinking about it for years, I would think you could last a few months. Right?

It'll pass. Don't worry.
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Fallacy



Joined: 29 Jun 2015
Location: ex-ROK

PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
Do the time ...
This.

isitts wrote:
It'll pass. Don't worry.
And this.

Believe me, not a day goes by without daydreaming ... but still, I second both PRagic and isitts here.
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wooden nickels



Joined: 23 May 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fallacy wrote:
PRagic wrote:
Do the time ...
This.

isitts wrote:
It'll pass. Don't worry.
And this.

Believe me, not a day goes by without daydreaming ... but still, I second both PRagic and isitts here.


+ This
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oatmeal



Joined: 26 Nov 2013

PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for your feedback. I do agree with you all, and my head knows it's probably the better thing to do (to stick it out for 6 more months), but man it's really really tough..I'm on the verge of snapping everyday and it really sucks. I hate feeling like this and I'm going downhill fast. I've always considered the job really easy and because I enjoy what I do, it's never been a burden in that respect. But my emotional state and mind is really bad and I realize that at some point, money and a job is not always worth it if you are losing your health and your happiness. I will try to stick it out. I just don't know if I can which is why I'm trying to prepare for the worst.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've recognized that it's an uphill battle, and you're sure not the first to be mired in angst.

Try just taking it a day at a time, a week at a time. Live for the weekends, and make something of them. Live for the 4 day long weekends and the holidays. In the scope of your existance, 6 months will be the blink of an eye.

IF you're getting paid, and IF you have a decent enough place to live, I still recommend sticking it out.

Everyone's breaking point is different, though, and we're all just armchair coaching at this point. Only you can decide when you've had enough.
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Fallacy



Joined: 29 Jun 2015
Location: ex-ROK

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After reading the OP's follow-up post, now I am not so sure. In the initial post, the OP posed questions about leaving with a focus on money:
oatmeal wrote:
I need some advice, and I need to know what happens to my finances if I quit midway or if I can find a transfer?
Honestly, I focused more on that than anything else written, and supported the consensus for gutting out the 6 months. However, after reading the 2nd post, this time focusing on the non-financial concerns:
oatmeal wrote:
... but man it's really really tough. I'm on the verge of snapping everyday and it really sucks. I hate feeling like this and I'm going downhill fast.... my emotional state and mind is really bad and I realize that at some point, money and a job is not always worth it if you are losing your health and your happiness. I will try to stick it out. I just don't know if I can which is why I'm trying to prepare for the worst.
And going back to re-read the 1st post, also looking at just the expressions of distress:
oatmeal wrote:
I have found that I am no longer happy and everyday I'm feeling angry, frustrated, agitated ... I have been thinking about [leaving] for years now. I don't think it's good for me to be angry/unhappy everyday. I'm just at a point where I need to have a break. I'm not sure I can last until the end of the contract which is february, but I'm trying really hard to.
I am no psychologist, so let me start with that. I can perhaps give advice on financial matters, but I am not qualified for head shrinking. With that established, now let me offer a caveat: bag it if you think you would prefer to slit your ankles in a warm bath instead of facing another day of the status quo. Otherwise, gut it out if you are confident that you can will yourself to overcome any challenge. Only you truly know yourself; none of us on this board know you at all.

Okay? No suicidal tendencies or battling the demons or what have you. None of that. If you can carry on, then carry on, and PRagic gives great practical suggestions for how to do just that. Take it day-by-day and ignore the noise. However, if you are feeling emotionally unstable, mentally disoriented, and physically deteriorating, then get help, or help yourself, to find a more immediate solution. Someone perhaps wise once said this:
Quote:
money and a job is not always worth it if you are losing your health and your happiness
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wooden nickels



Joined: 23 May 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oatmeal wrote:
thanks for your feedback. I do agree with you all, and my head knows it's probably the better thing to do (to stick it out for 6 more months), but man it's really really tough..I'm on the verge of snapping everyday and it really sucks. I hate feeling like this and I'm going downhill fast. I've always considered the job really easy and because I enjoy what I do, it's never been a burden in that respect. But my emotional state and mind is really bad and I realize that at some point, money and a job is not always worth it if you are losing your health and your happiness. I will try to stick it out. I