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On the other hand
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 Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:31 am Post subject: bone-headed leaflet drops |
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Inter-Korean relations are deteriorating with a recent series of setbacks including last week’s land mine incident that injured two South Korean soldiers and Pyongyang’s repeated rejection of Seoul’s overtures for dialogue.
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The leaflets listed names of North Korean officials “to be executed after reunification,” which included North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, his wife Lee Sol-ju and Hwang Pyong-so, the director of the North Korean military’s General Political Bureau.
In response to the dissemination of the leaflets, the North warned of “merciless physical response” and criticized the Seoul government for not preventing civic activists from conducting what it calls a “grave provocation” against it.
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As I've said before, the only likely result of these leaflet-drops would be the arrest, torture, and execution of any North Korean found to be in possession of them.
And seriously. "To be executed after reunification"? A placard reading "EXECUTE BARACK OBAMA" would likely get you tasered by the Secret Service, let alone the North Korean police.
The ROK should pass a law saying that asylum seekers agree not to participate in this kind of activity.
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Fallacy
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| Agreed. However, if not this nonsense, then what can be done instead to keep the unification hopes alive? No one will accept just doing nothing. Suggestions? |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:11 am Post subject: |
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| Agreed. However, if not this nonsense, then what can be done instead to keep the unification hopes alive? No one will accept just doing nothing. Suggestions? |
I don't think that there is much anyone in the ROK can do to further the cause of unification. China will likely continue to prop up North Korea, because they don't want a unified, American-allied Korea on their border. Contact and collaboration between the North and South will can and should continue, but it likely won't lead to outright unification in the short-term, or even the medium-long one. |
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yodanole
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| Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| The leader of a country who exercises absolute power and has the expectancy of continuing for the duration of his lifespan has little incentive for any kind of political reform or change. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Interesting observation from the Marmot...
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Under the two progressive presidents, South Korea won both of the naval engagements it fought against North Korea. Under the last two conservative presidents, North Korean torpedoes sank ROKS Cheonan, North Korean artillery shells killed civilians in Yeonpyeong-do, and now, North Korean mines terribly injured two soldiers–and the president spouted delusional garbage the day after.
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To my recollection, there have in fact been more, and deadlier, provocations from the North since the right-wing took over the ROK, than there was under the left. (Marmot didn't mention the woman who was shot dead while on holidays in the DPRK.)
I remember when LMB took over, thinking that all the predictions about a new era of getting-tough would come to nought.
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stilicho25
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| Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think it is particularly effective, but then again I haven't seen any tactic that works all that well in terms of changing North Koreans behavior. As far as left wing politicians being more effective, didn't the architect of the sunshine policy bribe North Korea 500 million dollars to participate? Money that went straight into their military/nuke programs? Then all that stuff about what No Muh Hyun was up to? I wouldn't really call either sides approach successful. Talk about banning it seems pretty obnoxious in my opinion. |
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Steelrails
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| Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting observation from the Marmot...
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Under the two progressive presidents, South Korea won both of the naval engagements it fought against North Korea. Under the last two conservative presidents, North Korean torpedoes sank ROKS Cheonan, North Korean artillery shells killed civilians in Yeonpyeong-do, and now, North Korean mines terribly injured two soldiers–and the president spouted delusional garbage the day after.
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To my recollection, there have in fact been more, and deadlier, provocations from the North since the right-wing took over the ROK, than there was under the left. (Marmot didn't mention the woman who was shot dead while on holidays in the DPRK.)
I remember when LMB took over, thinking that all the predictions about a new era of getting-tough would come to nought.
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I think that that analysis by the Marmet is wayyyy oversimplified. The naval engagements involved a clear escalation of hostilities and a visibly sighted target. The torpedo attack on the Cheonan was a complete surprise and the artillery attack was also a surprise. Obviously in this kind of situation, the advantage goes to the side with the element of surprise on its side. Also, its not like LMB was in personal command of the Cheonan.
The president could have been progressive and the Cheonan still would have happened and gone the exact same way. |
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young_clinton
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| Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| To a North Korean, the leaflets would seem a bit like the stuff a nutjob from an undesirable nation would put out. Who says Kim Jong Un will be executed if caught? Courts usually decide those issues. Are the leaflets saying South Korea acts without due process just like North Korea? |
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