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th3



Joined: 05 Sep 2014

PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:34 am    Post subject: 2.1m for 34 Teaching hours Reply with quote

For an inexperienced teacher with a TEFL/ TESOL, is 2.1m for 34 teaching hours wayyyy too low? Confused

What would be a fair wage?
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.1 = $1,781 a month. That's about 20k for a year.
http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=KRW&to=USD&view=1Y
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th3



Joined: 05 Sep 2014

PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
2.1 = $1,781 a month. That's about 20k for a year.
http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=KRW&to=USD&view=1Y


Thanks for your input! What would you say is a fair price?
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trueblue



Joined: 15 Jun 2014
Location: In between the lines

PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch.


Well, how does the school define a teaching hour? Is it based on one class, minutes in the classroom? What is the total amount of working hours?

Either way, the pay is awful, especially when the exchange rate is considered.

Perhaps asking nothing less than 2.4..?

Then again, there are always others who are desperate enough to accept that low ball salary.
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SeoulNate



Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa

PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

34 teaching hours is a ton of classroom time, but as Trueblue said, someone will take that job, there are too many desperate people out there.
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Coltronator



Joined: 04 Dec 2013

PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

34 teaching hours is extreme. I wouldn't touch it for less than 3.0 + Housing
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SeoulNate



Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa

PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coltronator wrote:
34 teaching hours is extreme. I wouldn't touch it for less than 3.0 + Housing


Probably bad idea for him to walk in and ask for that. The job will go to someone else.

The market sucks pretty bad right now and people are taking more and more crap offers. Can't just not accept something if 20 other people are right behind you waiting for the same job.

With that said though, there are many better jobs out there. Generally the noobie job is 30 hours a week (even that is a lot IMO) teaching with 2 prep/break hours per day for between 2.1-2.3.
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outbound_22



Joined: 05 Feb 2015

PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:58 am    Post subject: Re: 2.1m for 34 Teaching hours Reply with quote

th3 wrote:
For an inexperienced teacher with a TEFL/ TESOL, is 2.1m for 34 teaching hours wayyyy too low? Confused

What would be a fair wage?



That's standard.
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GENO123



Joined: 28 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really understand why anyone new would choose to teach in Korea anymore. It ought to be close to last on everyone's list of teaching destinations.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An interesting discussion here:
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Been in EFL for 20 years and the offers advertised just seem to get worse and worse. Would you do it all over again? Do you think people should get into it?

Even in the Middle East, the deals are becoming far from generous.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=111694
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Coltronator



Joined: 04 Dec 2013

PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because some people can work 30 teaching hours a week and make 4.5 or more a month. (Not saying it is great but it is quite livable)
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GENO123



Joined: 28 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No hogwon or university pays 4.5. Also if a hogwon claimed they pay 3. 0 because they pay airfare severence and housing. no one would accept that description.

So if that 4.5 doesnt include the above then it is more or less like 3.8.

Even if someone makes 4.5 with extra work or only extra work it doesnt work out to that number every month because there are always occurrences like cancellations, delays or transportation problems. .

A lot of posters earn less than they claim ( not saying you) if you use accurate numbers.

Since the going rate is 30 to 40k an hour 4.5 would be exceptional if one is using accurate and realistic numbers. About 3.5M is more representative figure and one would need an f visa and avoid bad luck to even to do as much as that.


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Coltronator



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah your Math is right.

I do it with a 4.5 teaching hours a day 2.6 + Housing base job.

With 40-65k/hr Privates & Business classes peppered tightly (before I was able to tighten my schedule to no more than 15 minute gaps it was a bit stressful) around the base job of about 10-14 Hours per week for about 1.8-2.5 more per month.

Total Teaching is about 33-36.5 hours per week.

But Caveat is I also have 1.5 hours a day of off time to be used as I see fit for prep or my personal breaks. Usually it means an hour of break and 30 mins prep. Business classes currently are lucky as the students only wish to have casual conversation and want to touch the book maybe 1 out of every 4 classes.

So if you include the time spent at work it would be more like 4.5 for 35 Teaching and 42 office hours and 45 total (with private class travel) a week.

And yes you need an F series visa for this
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DaeguNL



Joined: 08 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
2.1 = $1,781 a month. That's about 20k for a year.
http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=KRW&to=USD&view=1Y


400 a month housing allowance, severance pay, and 4.5% pension brings that up quite a bit.
approx 8million there

thats 28,000, clearing 27,000. not great for the hours listed but not quite as bad as the min wage type salary you are making it out to be
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My issue with this job is that you're probably going to have the least gratifying teaching experience imaginable. 34 teaching hours basically means that you're always in the classroom, allowing for little to no time for prep and grading. This in turn suggests that this is either the perfect definition of a cram school or that you'll be spending a fair bit of your own time dealing with whatever you need to do outside of the classroom.
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