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Plain Meaning
Joined: 18 Oct 2014
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 Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| chopstick wrote: |
| What do you want hardline fasci-cops with guns? I hear this kind of shit all the time and can't get my head around it. |
They'll call you an apologist for that.
Also, do not bring up Korean history. It's totally irrelevant to the discussion that in the 80s police tortured people for political crimes. |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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| chopstick wrote: |
| What do you want hardline fasci-cops with guns? I hear this kind of shit all the time and can't get my head around it. |
Really, you hear people on here advocating "fasci-cops"? Or is that just the strawman argument that you feel obligated to run with, because that's all you've got? What people are advocating in this thread is responsible, efficient and competent policing. Neither extreme is right, but most Western countries have found a middle ground that guarantees both freedom and competent law enforcement. Korea has not.
It certainly doesn't help that the Korean president has just pardoned a vast number of law breakers (including drunken drivers). The police should be encouraged to do their job, not discouraged by cynical politicians who only want to increase their popularity with an electorate of scofflaws. http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20150813001047
Again, get the police to do their job or give them pink slips. Think of how popular she will be by saving the tax payer billions of dollars each year. |
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chopstick
Joined: 03 Oct 2012
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| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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I often hear students opine that the Korean police should have guns so they can "do their jobs better". It's fear-fueled bullshit from people who hardly ever experience any real, serious crime and spend too much time watching TV.
The point I'm making is that there is only a minimal need for police. Resources are much better spent on education and health than state-funded gangsterism. |
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chellovek
Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| chopstick wrote: |
I often hear students opine that the Korean police should have guns so they can "do their jobs better". It's fear-fueled bullshit from people who hardly ever experience any real, serious crime and spend too much time watching TV.
The point I'm making is that there is only a minimal need for police. Resources are much better spent on education and health than state-funded gangsterism. |
DISBAND THE POLICE!
Trying to f-ing enforce the law. When will the sheeple get it?  |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Smithington wrote: |
Neither extreme is right, but most Western countries have found a middle ground that guarantees both freedom and competent law enforcement. Korea has not.
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It should be noted that in most western countries, they didn't ceased to fully be a military dictatorship in the year 1988, in which the police were used to prop up the regime and to brutally crackdown on reformers. That's 1988. Many of us were alive and going to school then. Think about it, if prior to your existence, the life of whole of your parents had been under a dictatorship and police state, you think they might have different views regarding the cops and wanting to keep them "weak"? It may seem like a long time ago for us, but its their formative years for them. |
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Psilo
Joined: 25 Nov 2012
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow, what a complainer. Maybe if you spent as much time trying to help the community and do something on your own to create attention to the situation through legislation or action, rather than whine all day on a messageboard to (people who mostly are disagreeing with you), there could be the change you want to see. The thread is a fountain of negativity. Think Korea has done it's toll on you. |
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geldedgoat
Joined: 05 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| Plain Meaning wrote: |
| chopstick wrote: |
| What do you want hardline fasci-cops with guns? I hear this kind of shit all the time and can't get my head around it. |
They'll call you an apologist for that.
Also, do not bring up Korean history. It's totally irrelevant to the discussion that in the 80s police tortured people for political crimes. |
Well, it's certainly irrelevant to the question of whether or not the Korean police are "a fantastic waste of tax payers' money." |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Since a certain individual managed to get the "Korean Traffic Act" thread locked, I'm going to post the link to the Act here.
http://elaw.klri.re.kr/eng_mobile/viewer.do?hseq=22353&type=part&key=11
This is another very interesting link that another person on the locked thread had kindly posted. It has plenty of interesting material on traffic-related law, and what to do if one is involved in an 'accident', as well as a host of other legal issues. It's something one might want to use as a resource at some point, and not just for being hit by a motorist. A very interesting resource. http://klawguru.com/
Traffic-related matters can be found by using the 'search box' to the left. |
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Scorpion
Joined: 15 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Smithington wrote: |
| Since a certain individual managed to get the "Korean Traffic Act" thread locked.... |
Man, that boy can troll. Interestingly enough though, I haven't seen a post from him since the thread got locked. Maybe the mods finally got tired of him and have shut him down. At least, it seems he might be on an administrative leave. I've never encountered anyone (ever) who could troll like him. He's got up basically every other posters' nose...repeatedly. He's probably one reason so few people post here anymore. Dealing with his antics in every thread just isn't worth it. He doesn't seem to have a presence on that other site, and that just might be one of its attractions for some people. Anyway, thanks for re-posting those links. The locked thread was, after all, about the Korean traffic code, although one wouldn't have guessed it after SR hijacked it for his own purposes. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| geldedgoat wrote: |
| Plain Meaning wrote: |
| chopstick wrote: |
| What do you want hardline fasci-cops with guns? I hear this kind of shit all the time and can't get my head around it. |
They'll call you an apologist for that.
Also, do not bring up Korean history. It's totally irrelevant to the discussion that in the 80s police tortured people for political crimes. |
Well, it's certainly irrelevant to the question of whether or not the Korean police are "a fantastic waste of tax payers' money." |
It seems to me that Korean tax payers are getting about the level of service they desire. Sure at times they want a bit more enforcement and protection, but at other times they might still view them as too strict. There will continue to be changes. No one gets it right on the first try, all at once.
Smithington and Scorpion- I hope you had a good week too. |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Psilo wrote: |
| Maybe if you spent as much time trying to help the community and do something on your own to create attention to the situation through legislation or action, rather than whine all day on a messageboard to (people who mostly are disagreeing with you), there could be the change you want to see. |
How do you suggest I go about doing that, given that engaging in any political activity in Korea is forbidden on an E-2 visa. The only way we can bring attention to the matter is by telling the clown parking on the crosswalk that we're about to use that it's not a &%#@ parking spot and that he ought to park elsewhere. Learn the relevant phrases in Korean and let them know that you didn't appreciate their recklessness. If you can't speak Korean, express your annoyance in English in any way that ensures that your message gets through.
That's all we can do.
Legislation.  |
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