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Ramanujan88
Joined: 29 Mar 2015
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| northway wrote: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| Judgmental? Do you mean that many posters here are not appreciative of someone who likely submitted a false application to get their job in Korea? Nope, nobody here like that at all. |
What false application? I never submitted anything false on my application! What are you talking about? |
Are you sure? Because there's a section of the application where it asks about previous mental health problems, and checking the box "yes" is an automatic disqualifier. I believe that in an earlier post regarding your visa you stated that you had checked the box "no". Is this not the case? |
When I filled out that application, I had not seen a doctor before (I came from a family that didn't believe in mental health and was always just consider terribly dramatic and imagining things). So no, I didn't lie. I didn't find out that my pain might have a name till shortly before I left when I went to see a doctor weekly to prepare for the big move and the leaving of everything. I had seen a counselor before for when my father died or someone else, but the office said not to worry about that. But no sickness was ever brought up. And everything else in teaching and background was certainly true (and I assumed they the Immigration Office thoroughly checked it out). So I didn't lie.
Not that I think disability should be any government's business especially as Korea (and America) so little understand it. People with physical and mental and emotional disabilities are so wrongly kept out of the work force. But we can do it. There are Bi-polar CEOs, Autistic actors, schizophrenic teachers, wheel-chaired business owners. And contrary to popular belief, we're not incapable or harmful to the normal folk.
My boss found out my illness a month into my job, and said "I was worried at first, but yea, I in no way questions your ability to work." I was lucky to get this job, but also earned this job as you all earned yours. I didn't lie or steal or anything. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:59 am Post subject: |
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When I filled out that application, I had not seen a doctor before (I came from a family that didn't believe in mental health and was always just consider terribly dramatic and imagining things). So no, I didn't lie. I didn't find out that my pain might have a name till shortly before I left when I went to see a doctor weekly to prepare for the big move and the leaving of everything. I had seen a counselor before for when my father died or someone else, but the office said not to worry about that. But no sickness was ever brought up. And everything else in teaching and background was certainly true (and I assumed they the Immigration Office thoroughly checked it out). So I didn't lie.
Not that I think disability should be any government's business especially as Korea (and America) so little understand it. People with physical and mental and emotional disabilities are so wrongly kept out of the work force. But we can do it. There are Bi-polar CEOs, Autistic actors, schizophrenic teachers, wheel-chaired business owners. And contrary to popular belief, we're not incapable or harmful to the normal folk.
My boss found out my illness a month into my job, and said "I was worried at first, but yea, I in no way questions your ability to work." I was lucky to get this job, but also earned this job as you all earned yours. I didn't lie or steal or anything. |
The bolded is funny. There is no thorough checking of anything.
As to whether or not it's the government's business, it absolutely is a government's prerogative to assure that it doesn't invite in individuals who are a liability in any way, shape, or form. Doubly so when those individuals are interacting with children. If you think that this is not the case, you're essentially making an argument for global citizenship and the breakdown of national borders. |
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Ramanujan88
Joined: 29 Mar 2015
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:06 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
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When I filled out that application, I had not seen a doctor before (I came from a family that didn't believe in mental health and was always just consider terribly dramatic and imagining things). So no, I didn't lie. I didn't find out that my pain might have a name till shortly before I left when I went to see a doctor weekly to prepare for the big move and the leaving of everything. I had seen a counselor before for when my father died or someone else, but the office said not to worry about that. But no sickness was ever brought up. And everything else in teaching and background was certainly true (and I assumed they the Immigration Office thoroughly checked it out). So I didn't lie.
Not that I think disability should be any government's business especially as Korea (and America) so little understand it. People with physical and mental and emotional disabilities are so wrongly kept out of the work force. But we can do it. There are Bi-polar CEOs, Autistic actors, schizophrenic teachers, wheel-chaired business owners. And contrary to popular belief, we're not incapable or harmful to the normal folk.
My boss found out my illness a month into my job, and said "I was worried at first, but yea, I in no way questions your ability to work." I was lucky to get this job, but also earned this job as you all earned yours. I didn't lie or steal or anything. |
The bolded is funny. There is no thorough checking of anything.
As to whether or not it's the government's business, it absolutely is a government's prerogative to assure that it doesn't invite in individuals who are a liability in any way, shape, or form. Doubly so when those individuals are interacting with children. If you think that this is not the case, you're essentially making an argument for global citizenship and the breakdown of national borders. |
I don't care what kind of argument I'm making. I'm glad they check my background and drug test me and anything else. But because I know they won't review my case if I tell them yes, I have a condition, they'll just brush me off, *beep* that. It be different if they spoke to the doctor or had me reviewed in Korea or checked on my past teaching credentials to see if I was safe around children. Just because someone has a different shaped body or mind, they shouldn't be written off. That's injustice anywhere. |
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Ramanujan88
Joined: 29 Mar 2015
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| Oh, and I apologize, but I turned off all notifications and am stopping my replies to this topic or any other. I appreciate so much those who gave me links or send encouraging messages, which was much needed. But I'm tired of responding to ones that were mean or ones that I was overly sensitive to. I won't be using this forum anymore, it's been hurtful more than helpful. So if you post any mean, nice, or whatever comment to knock some reason into me. I'm sorry, I won't see it. Thank you for you time. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Friend, if your mental health issue is so obvious that a hagweon owner can diagnose it inside of one month, then there's no way you didn't already know. The only possibilities for your posting history here are you're dishonest, you're living in one quite odd dreamland about your own behavior, or you're pulling off one rather convoluted and epic trolling stunt.
Note: None of that rules out you actually have a mental health issue.
Further note: It borders on the miraculous said hagweon owner discovered that you have a mental health issue and did not fire you outright. Given South Korea's rather, shall we say, fluid approach to medical privacy, some foreign teacher working in a rural area and seeing a doctor for mental health issues is not an event that's going to not come to the awareness of the students' parents.
Just for fun, mind you; when you come back under another name, you might want to try a different posting style so you don't get caught out. |
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Fallacy
Joined: 29 Jun 2015
Location: ex-ROK
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Ramanujan88 wrote: |
| I won't be using this forum anymore, it's been hurtful more than helpful. |
Sensible. Mismatched expectations. This forum can be useful for getting information, but not treatment, so feel free to accept the details, and to dismiss the advice. |
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Kepler
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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"I just moved to South Korea and am loving my new teaching job.... There's is one large downside for me personally that I can't talk to anyone about. I live with schizophrenia and ADD. I've never been on meds except for a few month period last year, which was wonderful."
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=236136
So she was on meds for her condition for a period back in 2014 but is now claiming she filled out the self health check questionnaire accurately. My baloney detector is going off. |
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Fallacy
Joined: 29 Jun 2015
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Lack of consistency is a marker. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:54 am Post subject: |
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| Kepler wrote: |
"I just moved to South Korea and am loving my new teaching job.... There's is one large downside for me personally that I can't talk to anyone about. I live with schizophrenia and ADD. I've never been on meds except for a few month period last year, which was wonderful."
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=236136
So she was on meds for her condition for a period back in 2014 but is now claiming she filled out the self health check questionnaire accurately. My baloney detector is going off. |
You misspelled 'troll' as 'baloney'. |
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talentedcrayon
Joined: 27 Aug 2013
Location: Why do you even care?
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| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Everyone here pay all their taxes their whole life? Never teach a private in Korea? Never go over the speed limit? You were all totally honest on your resumes?
Please... |
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Fallacy
Joined: 29 Jun 2015
Location: ex-ROK
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| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Everyone here pay all their taxes their whole life? Never teach a private in Korea? Never go over the speed limit? You were all totally honest on your resumes? |
You got me on exceeding the speeding limit, I must admit though I have paid all of my fines for traffic offenses when caught. Just curious: are these rhetorical questions offered in defense of lying? |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Everyone here pay all their taxes their whole life? Never teach a private in Korea? Never go over the speed limit? You were all totally honest on your resumes?
Please... |
These are poor comparisons. This is more like going twice the speed limit and then getting defensive about your driving after you get in a crash. |
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maitaidads
Joined: 08 Oct 2012
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| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| I became an illegal worker when I couldn't get a job in America and my ex hagwon needed a teacher. We teamed up and had a great 9 month run. |
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Fallacy
Joined: 29 Jun 2015
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| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I became an illegal worker when I couldn't get a job in America and my ex hagwon needed a teacher. We teamed up and had a great 9 month run. |
...until becoming suicidal, and calling the hotline? Not sure how illegal work status and unemployment applies to the thread. |
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