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Busan immi busts 120 foreign teachers
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talentedcrayon



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:02 am    Post subject: Busan immi busts 120 foreign teachers Reply with quote

Anyone else read about this?

Busan immigration busted 120 foreign teachers, all of whom were working part time gigs with the same company.

It came up in my Facebook feed. So I don't have a source.
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talentedcrayon



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The owner of the company posted this on Facebook apologizing...

"Ethne Edu to Part-time teaching positions in Korea (Ethne Education)
19 mins ยท
We got a big problem recently. We were investigated from Immigration. They took all the documents. And they said that working with E-2 visa is illegal. We didn't know that. No one told us it is illegal. But they said that all the E-2 visas know that it's illegal working private lesson. We are very embarrassed now. Our penalty is 20,000,000won. We are very sad there's nothing to do about this.
We are not illegal company. We are going to check Korean law concretely. We are going to hire only F visa holders from now on.
Once again we apologize for having caused so much trouble." - Paul Kim (Owner of Ethne Education)
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talentedcrayon



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And... the teachers are facing deportation and fines of 20,000,000 won also... have fun with that...
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talentedcrayon



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now might be a good time to apply for work in Busan though Very Happy
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talentedcrayon



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MODS you can delete this. I noticed that it was posted in the job forum already.
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SeoulNate



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why people give these private agencies their contact details / real name is beyond me
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SeoulNate



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

talentedcrayon wrote:
MODS you can delete this. I noticed that it was posted in the job forum already.


actually seems that one got deleted?
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Plain Meaning



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

talentedcrayon wrote:
We were investigated from Immigration. They took all the documents. And they said that working with E-2 visa is illegal. We didn't know that. No one told us it is illegal. But they said that all the E-2 visas know that it's illegal working private lesson. We are very embarrassed now. Our penalty is 20,000,000won. We are very sad there's nothing to do about this.


This sums up a lot of why I left Korea.

1) The double standard: foreigners must know the law or be deported but somehow domestic businesses are allowed to claim they do not.

2) The prohibition on English teaching. This is corporate welfare at the expense of students for which otherwise qualified foreigners will be deported.
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Fallacy



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:38 pm    Post subject: RE: Busan drama repost Reply with quote

SeoulNate wrote:
talentedcrayon wrote:
MODS you can delete this. I noticed that it was posted in the job forum already.
actually seems that one got deleted?
Thus, the confusion about where to post on this topic.
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But they said that all the E-2 visas know that it's illegal working private lesson.
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We are going to hire only F visa holders from now on.
Interesting use of grammar. Those with an E-2 are completely dehumanized. That appears to be deliberate, as all the other sentences contain "we," "they," "us," and "our." The employer clearly wishes to appear victimized. Even immigration is included! Apologizing in this way manages to encompass the customers as well. The entire passage projects a racial, social, and economic division between legitimate insiders who have been victimized, and illegitimate outsiders who have been criminalized. Ingenious use of insidious language. It would have been easy to have included the tutors as well in the ignorance argument, so their exclusion seems to me to represent precisely the resistance, however innocently or maliciously intended, that people on this board are presented with daily in the ROK. This FB release is just rallying K-team propaganda.
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Fox



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plain Meaning wrote:

2) The prohibition on English teaching. This is corporate welfare at the expense of students for which otherwise qualified foreigners will be deported.


Well, it's protectionism anyway: many of the beneficiaries are not "corporations" so much as small-scale local operations or individuals. You're right, though, that it's at the expense of the students, who could receive quality English lessons at a cheaper rate if the policy did not exist.
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candy bar



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard it was a *sting* to weed out a lot of the Canadians working on tourist visas. If it was, the same thing will be happening in some of the other big cities soon.

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SeoulNate



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

damn them Canadians
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candy bar



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeoulNate wrote:
damn them Canadians


shifty lot

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Fallacy



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does weed have to do with Canadians?
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candy bar



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the smoke clears, it all comes down to workers not having a CRC and not having a working visa. High standards.
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