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Coltronator
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| Absolutely. If you don't know what it is then you obviously received a 4th rate education and have no business having a visa that requires a university education. I have taught middle and high school school students about the issues and opinions surrounding the Warren Court, the effect of visual media on Nixon vs. Kennedy, consumer bias for name brands, parliamentary debate. What do you do? Oh sing ABCs? Well I do that too, it is fun and rewarding to teach the young ones. However still I learned about Swift in grade 10 English. It isn't that advanced of a topic. |
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tophatcat
Joined: 09 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| Coltronator wrote: |
| But an English teacher not being aware of what a Modest Proposal is begs the question of what he is doing teaching in the first place? |
He might have known what a Modest Proposal is. Why assume he didn't? It reads like he didn't want he and his spouse being accused of eating their own babies even in jest. I can't really blame him. I wouldn't care for it either. Who wouldn't be p@sst if they or their spouse was being called a baby eater or something like a pedophile or anything in that list? It's right up there with calling people racist names. Some things aren't funny even when joking. |
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Coltronator
Joined: 04 Dec 2013
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| It obviously crossed the line twice and back therefore being self aware of its own ridiculousness. No one was accused of anything to frank. Well other than lying about having children a year ago. |
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Plain Meaning
Joined: 18 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| Coltronator wrote: |
| Absolutely. If you don't know what it is then you obviously received a 4th rate education and have no business having a visa that requires a university education. I have taught middle and high school school students about the issues and opinions surrounding the Warren Court, the effect of visual media on Nixon vs. Kennedy, consumer bias for name brands, parliamentary debate. What do you do? Oh sing ABCs? Well I do that too, it is fun and rewarding to teach the young ones. However still I learned about Swift in grade 10 English. It isn't that advanced of a topic. |
I wouldn't draw too many assumptions on the basis of knowledge of a jeopardy type trivia question (even if it is only a $400 question). Likewise, Fallacy wasn't wrong to treat a forum as a fun place to display some wit. And Fallacy did the classy thing and apologized.
It is a simple misunderstanding. |
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tophatcat
Joined: 09 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:48 am Post subject: |
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| Coltronator wrote: |
| It obviously crossed the line twice and back therefore being self aware of its own ridiculousness. No one was accused of anything to frank. Well other than lying about having children a year ago. |
It looks like he was being honest to me. He explained the child thing. That's how I see it.
I agree that Fallacy manned up and did the right thing. |
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tophatcat
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| Coltronator wrote: |
| Absolutely. If you don't know what it is then you obviously received a 4th rate education and have no business having a visa that requires a university education. I have taught middle and high school school students about the issues and opinions surrounding the Warren Court, the effect of visual media on Nixon vs. Kennedy, consumer bias for name brands, parliamentary debate. What do you do? Oh sing ABCs? Well I do that too, it is fun and rewarding to teach the young ones. However still I learned about Swift in grade 10 English. It isn't that advanced of a topic. |
I wouldn't draw too many assumptions on the basis of knowledge of a jeopardy type trivia question (even if it is only a $400 question). Likewise, Fallacy wasn't wrong to treat a forum as a fun place to display some wit. And Fallacy did the classy thing and apologized.
It is a simple misunderstanding. |
I agree it is a simple misunderstanding. But I don't think it's fair when others say things it can be taken as a misunderstanding or not literal. Then hold woody under the ax and call him a liar. |
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Coltronator
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:42 am Post subject: |
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I agree. I wouldn't exactly call the iconic example of satire a simple Jeopardy question. Who is the current president of the United States... no that is more like a Celebrity Jeopardy question.
But yeah fair enough he even apologized (for something that needed no apology, making him a weak spineless democrat... or Canadian...) |
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Plain Meaning
Joined: 18 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:06 am Post subject: |
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| Coltronator wrote: |
| Absolutely. If you don't know what it is then you obviously received a 4th rate education and have no business having a visa that requires a university education. I have taught middle and high school school students about the issues and opinions surrounding the Warren Court, the effect of visual media on Nixon vs. Kennedy, consumer bias for name brands, parliamentary debate. What do you do? Oh sing ABCs? Well I do that too, it is fun and rewarding to teach the young ones. However still I learned about Swift in grade 10 English. It isn't that advanced of a topic. |
I wouldn't draw too many assumptions on the basis of knowledge of a jeopardy type trivia question (even if it is only a $400 question). Likewise, Fallacy wasn't wrong to treat a forum as a fun place to display some wit. And Fallacy did the classy thing and apologized.
It is a simple misunderstanding. |
I agree it is a simple misunderstanding. But I don't think it's fair when others say things it can be taken as a misunderstanding or not literal. Then hold woody under the ax and call him a liar. |
I don't understand. |
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Fallacy
Joined: 29 Jun 2015
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:49 pm Post subject: RE: The 20 thousand dollar lie |
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I should probably apologize for being Canadian, too, eh. My condolences for Stephen Harper while I am at it. I hear he is retiring to Lilliput where he can be a towering figure again, no longer tied down by the people. So much for the 20 thousand dollar lie.
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Sister Ray
Joined: 25 Mar 2006
Location: Fukuoka
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:56 pm Post subject: Re: RE: The 20 thousand dollar lie |
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| Fallacy wrote: |
| I should probably apologize for being Canadian, too, eh. My condolences for Stephen Harper while I am at it. |
Congratulations on ridding yourselves of that caveman. With him and Tony Abbott both gone in recent months the anglosphere seems to be slowly pulling itself out of the twentieth century. |
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jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Yaya wrote: |
Korea's ESL industry is in decline (as is the overall economy) but well, I guess it depends on the individual. The private tutoring market, to my knowledge, has taken a hit, too, as many expats would make good money off that, but perhaps no longer.
If you want to save money, Vietnam seems to be a good bet. |
Yep; I've been searching for a job for the first time in 3 years and it's fucking rough out there man. ESL pay is literally not even stuck, it's actually *reversed* if that's even possible. The TALK program from a few years ago seemed to SERIOUSLY lower the bar for pay and I've seen 1.9mil for a 10 hr schedule. Shit is ridiculous. Right now I'm waiting to hear back for a job in non-ESL and even that isn't great. Every Korean company with young people is calling themselves a "start up" and using it to treat every day as an overtime day. I thought this garbage would start to tail off with the younger generation but it totally hasn't and it's really depressing.
This country is seriously fucking just stuck. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Korea is no longer the prime place it once was for those looking to make some serious cash. Wages haven’t risen in a decade. Cost of living most certainly has. The Korean ESL industry is a dying one and I feel like I’ve already been hanging around a couple years more than I should have. Things are only get to get worse in the next few years.
http://teachinginkoreanuniversity.com/when-is-it-time-to-leave-korea/ |
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Fallacy
Joined: 29 Jun 2015
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:44 pm Post subject: RE: Extending the singular reference |
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| This is post #3 promoting the website for jlb. To be fair, there are good points made there, but nothing to get excited or infuriated about. |
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silkhighway
Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't read every response here..
But..
What is $20K these days? 15-20 years ago that was probably enough for a downpayment on a house, but now? Not very much. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| silkhighway wrote: |
I didn't read every response here..
But..
What is $20K these days? 15-20 years ago that was probably enough for a downpayment on a house, but now? Not very much. |
Depends where you live. Big city no, small town, yes. If you plan to stay in Korea long term and get married here and have a life, if you can save 20 million won a year for the first 5 years before you do that, things are going to be significantly easier for you. |
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