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 Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 7:40 pm Post subject: Ferguson Judge's Response to DoJ Report |
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On March 4, 2015, the United States Department of Justice determined that:
I. Ferguson's law enforcement efforts are focused on generating revenue
II. Ferguson law enforcement practices violate the law and undermine community trust, especially among African-Americans
III. Changes are necessary to remedy Ferguson's unlawful law enforcement practices and repair community trust
(.pdf of DoJ report)
Therefore, a municipal judge has withdrawn all warrants issued before 2015.
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A municipal judge in Ferguson, Missouri, has announced the withdrawal of all warrants issued before December 31, 2014.
Judge Donald McCullin’s order affects nearly 10,000 warrants . . . [and] the state’s Department of Revenue will reinstate licenses that were suspended only because of a failure to appear in court or pay a fine. |
In addition, a new law will come into effect next year to reform some of the abuses outlined in the Justice Department Report.
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New reporting requirements and a lowered cap on court revenue don’t kick in until the next fiscal year for each municipality, starting with those that begin Jan. 1. What could be the biggest obstacle for some cities — meeting a set of minimum standards for government and police operations — carries a three-year deadline. Police departments then have another three years to gain accreditation.
Municipalities have begun preparing, though. Last week about 200 municipal prosecutors, judges and court administrators met at the University of Missouri-St. Louis to talk about how the county’s 81 separate court municipal court systems can uniformly implement changes.
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The most significant element of the legislation is a lowered cap on revenue from traffic tickets: It can now only make up 12.5 percent of a city’s general operating revenue in St. Louis County, and 20 percent elsewhere, down from 30 percent.
Municipalities that fail to submit a timely and accurate report on their finances to the state auditor will immediately lose jurisdiction over their courts. The previous law did little to punish the many courts that ignored the limits.
“That’s the big thing — limiting the amount of revenue,” said Velda City’s judge, Wesley Bell, who is also a City Council member in Ferguson. “If a city can’t keep its lights on without excessive ticketing, they need to be shut down.” |
The laws have major flaws, for example the revenue cap excludes anything other than minor traffic violations.
Its worth remembering how hypocritical the revenue collection activities were. |
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Fallacy
Joined: 29 Jun 2015
Location: ex-ROK
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| So ... congratulations? Not sure what query, or claim, the OP wishes to make here, but it seems like the court system deserves a "well done" sticker in my opinion. |
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Plain Meaning
Joined: 18 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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The Department of Justice deserves a part of the real credit, as their report prompted the Ferguson judge's predecessor to resign, and their report also allowed the incoming Ferguson judge the impetus to make this radical reform. But sure, the new Ferguson judge is alright.
The lion's share of the credit should go to all the activists and protesters who helped keep Ferguson's "justice" system in the national spotlight. They ultimately succeeded in changing the system. |
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wooden nickels
Joined: 23 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Plain Meaning wrote: |
The Department of Justice deserves a part of the real credit, as their report prompted the Ferguson judge's predecessor to resign, and their report also allowed the incoming Ferguson judge the impetus to make this radical reform. But sure, the new Ferguson judge is alright.
The lion's share of the credit should go to all the activists and protesters who helped keep Ferguson's "justice" system in the national spotlight. They ultimately succeeded in changing the system. |
and robbing, looting, and burning down innocent shop owners businesses. |
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Plain Meaning
Joined: 18 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| wooden nickels wrote: |
| Plain Meaning wrote: |
The Department of Justice deserves a part of the real credit, as their report prompted the Ferguson judge's predecessor to resign, and their report also allowed the incoming Ferguson judge the impetus to make this radical reform. But sure, the new Ferguson judge is alright.
The lion's share of the credit should go to all the activists and protesters who helped keep Ferguson's "justice" system in the national spotlight. They ultimately succeeded in changing the system. |
and robbing, looting, and burning down innocent shop owners businesses. |
Because instances of looting demonstrate that all the peaceful protesters were wrong to challenge corrupt police.
Frankly, when police train sniper rifles to intimidate peaceful protesters, then they become partially responsible for any resulting violence and disorder. |
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FMPJ
Joined: 03 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:04 am Post subject: |
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| Fallacy wrote: |
| So ... congratulations? Not sure what query, or claim, the OP wishes to make here, but it seems like the court system deserves a "well done" sticker in my opinion. |
Hear, hear. |
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yodanole
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: La Florida
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Plain Meaning
Joined: 18 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:55 am Post subject: |
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Ben Carson has not read the Ferguson DoJ Report
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Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson told a group of African-American civic leaders on Saturday that he is still waiting to see evidence of racial bias by law enforcement agencies in the U.S.
The only major White House hopeful who is black, Carson also mused during a criminal justice forum that he never had problems with police as a young black male in Detroit "because I was taught by my mother to be very respectful of authority." |
I cannot say I blame him for not having read the evidence for racial bias by law enforcement agencies in the U.S., as he's a doctor, not a lawyer. Wait, what? This guy is running for President? |
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Swartz
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
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| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| Plain Meaning wrote: |
[url=/carson-questions-claims-racial-bias-against-police-232747189--election.html]Ben Carson has not read the Ferguson DoJ Report[/url]
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Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson told a group of African-American civic leaders on Saturday that he is still waiting to see evidence of racial bias by law enforcement agencies in the U.S.
The only major White House hopeful who is black, Carson also mused during a criminal justice forum that he never had problems with police as a young black male in Detroit "because I was taught by my mother to be very respectful of authority." |
I cannot say I blame him for not having read the evidence for racial bias by law enforcement agencies in the U.S., as he's a doctor, not a lawyer. Wait, what? This guy is running for President? |
Do you have any conscious conception of how ridiculous you sound still clinging to this bogus Ferguson narrative? Did you receive a cut of the $30 million maniacal Jewish oligarch George Soros funneled into this project or are you just that far gone?
Carson has a reasonable and mature perspective as it concerns victim mentalities and how to conduct yourself when dealing with law enforcement. Whatever “racial bias” exists is absolutely, unequivocally linked to the behavior and rampant criminality of the Black community.
Actually, another figure who’s running for president tweeted some “hate-facts” about this issue just yesterday. "La-la-la":
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/668520614697820160 |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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[url=/carson-questions-claims-racial-bias-against-police-232747189--election.html]Ben Carson has not read the Ferguson DoJ Report[/url]
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Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson told a group of African-American civic leaders on Saturday that he is still waiting to see evidence of racial bias by law enforcement agencies in the U.S.
The only major White House hopeful who is black, Carson also mused during a criminal justice forum that he never had problems with police as a young black male in Detroit "because I was taught by my mother to be very respectful of authority." |
I cannot say I blame him for not having read the evidence for racial bias by law enforcement agencies in the U.S., as he's a doctor, not a lawyer. Wait, what? This guy is running for President? |
Do you have any conscious conception of how ridiculous you sound still clinging to this bogus Ferguson narrative? Did you receive a cut of the $30 million maniacal Jewish oligarch George Soros funneled into this project or are you just that far gone?
Carson has a reasonable and mature perspective as it concerns victim mentalities and how to conduct yourself when dealing with law enforcement. Whatever “racial bias” exists is absolutely, unequivocally linked to the behavior and rampant criminality of the Black community.
Actually, another figure who’s running for president tweeted some “hate-facts” about this issue just yesterday. "La-la-la":
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/668520614697820160 |
You do realize trumps numbers are bs, right? Perhaps you should be embarrassed about your la-la-la?
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/23/donald-trump/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/ |
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Swartz
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
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| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Leon wrote: |
| Swartz wrote: |
| Plain Meaning wrote: |
[url=/carson-questions-claims-racial-bias-against-police-232747189--election.html]Ben Carson has not read the Ferguson DoJ Report[/url]
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Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson told a group of African-American civic leaders on Saturday that he is still waiting to see evidence of racial bias by law enforcement agencies in the U.S.
The only major White House hopeful who is black, Carson also mused during a criminal justice forum that he never had problems with police as a young black male in Detroit "because I was taught by my mother to be very respectful of authority." |
I cannot say I blame him for not having read the evidence for racial bias by law enforcement agencies in the U.S., as he's a doctor, not a lawyer. Wait, what? This guy is running for President? |
Do you have any conscious conception of how ridiculous you sound still clinging to this bogus Ferguson narrative? Did you receive a cut of the $30 million maniacal Jewish oligarch George Soros funneled into this project or are you just that far gone?
Carson has a reasonable and mature perspective as it concerns victim mentalities and how to conduct yourself when dealing with law enforcement. Whatever “racial bias” exists is absolutely, unequivocally linked to the behavior and rampant criminality of the Black community.
Actually, another figure who’s running for president tweeted some “hate-facts” about this issue just yesterday. "La-la-la":
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/668520614697820160 |
You do realize trumps numbers are bs, right? Perhaps you should be embarrassed about your la-la-la?
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/23/donald-trump/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/ |
Yes, I read yesterday that some of the numbers in the infographic were partly off. But seemed like mostly nitpicking and does not negate the overwhelming facts of black criminality. |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Swartz wrote: |
| Leon wrote: |
| Swartz wrote: |
| Plain Meaning wrote: |
[url=/carson-questions-claims-racial-bias-against-police-232747189--election.html]Ben Carson has not read the Ferguson DoJ Report[/url]
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Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson told a group of African-American civic leaders on Saturday that he is still waiting to see evidence of racial bias by law enforcement agencies in the U.S.
The only major White House hopeful who is black, Carson also mused during a criminal justice forum that he never had problems with police as a young black male in Detroit "because I was taught by my mother to be very respectful of authority." |
I cannot say I blame him for not having read the evidence for racial bias by law enforcement agencies in the U.S., as he's a doctor, not a lawyer. Wait, what? This guy is running for President? |
Do you have any conscious conception of how ridiculous you sound still clinging to this bogus Ferguson narrative? Did you receive a cut of the $30 million maniacal Jewish oligarch George Soros funneled into this project or are you just that far gone?
Carson has a reasonable and mature perspective as it concerns victim mentalities and how to conduct yourself when dealing with law enforcement. Whatever “racial bias” exists is absolutely, unequivocally linked to the behavior and rampant criminality of the Black community.
Actually, another figure who’s running for president tweeted some “hate-facts” about this issue just yesterday. "La-la-la":
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/668520614697820160 |
You do realize trumps numbers are bs, right? Perhaps you should be embarrassed about your la-la-la?
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/23/donald-trump/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/ |
Yes, I read yesterday that some of the numbers in the infographic were partly off. But seemed like mostly nitpicking and does not negate the overwhelming facts of black criminality. |
Wildly off, and why post something you know is false? |
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Swartz
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
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| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Leon wrote: |
| Swartz wrote: |
| Leon wrote: |
| Swartz wrote: |
| Plain Meaning wrote: |
[url=/carson-questions-claims-racial-bias-against-police-232747189--election.html]Ben Carson has not read the Ferguson DoJ Report[/url]
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Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson told a group of African-American civic leaders on Saturday that he is still waiting to see evidence of racial bias by law enforcement agencies in the U.S.
The only major White House hopeful who is black, Carson also mused during a criminal justice forum that he never had problems with police as a young black male in Detroit "because I was taught by my mother to be very respectful of authority." |
I cannot say I blame him for not having read the evidence for racial bias by law enforcement agencies in the U.S., as he's a doctor, not a lawyer. Wait, what? This guy is running for President? |
Do you have any conscious conception of how ridiculous you sound still clinging to this bogus Ferguson narrative? Did you receive a cut of the $30 million maniacal Jewish oligarch George Soros funneled into this project or are you just that far gone?
Carson has a reasonable and mature perspective as it concerns victim mentalities and how to conduct yourself when dealing with law enforcement. Whatever “racial bias” exists is absolutely, unequivocally linked to the behavior and rampant criminality of the Black community.
Actually, another figure who’s running for president tweeted some “hate-facts” about this issue just yesterday. "La-la-la":
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/668520614697820160 |
You do realize trumps numbers are bs, right? Perhaps you should be embarrassed about your la-la-la?
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/23/donald-trump/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/ |
Yes, I read yesterday that some of the numbers in the infographic were partly off. But seemed like mostly nitpicking and does not negate the overwhelming facts of black criminality. |
Wildly off, and why post something you know is false? |
The media covers up black criminality. It also creates false narratives that blame whites for black dysfunction. That’s the subject of this thread, Leon. |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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The media covers up black criminality. It also creates false narratives that blame whites for black dysfunction. That’s the subject of this thread, Leon. |
So you wanted to get into the false narrative game as well? |
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Plain Meaning
Joined: 18 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Plain Meaning wrote: |
| Wait, what? [Ben Carson] is running for President? |
Ben Carson earned one million dollars in book sales in 2015.
Oh. Right. |
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