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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Boy is the air here bad. Worse than I've seen it in a long time. Time to debate going home. Ironically, in Northern China - north of Beijing, it seems better than here. Harbin, here I come. Lol.
http://aqicn.org/map/#@g/32.8565/122.3142/5z |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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| For a college grad, working on a cruise ship wouldn't be worth it unless one is a talented musician (because for them the job conditions/remuneration is better), which you are not. The other jobs (those listed in the link you posted) comparatively suck. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| For a college grad, working on a cruise ship wouldn't be worth it unless one is a talented musician (because for them the job conditions/remuneration is better), which you are not. The other jobs (those listed in the link you posted) comparatively suck. |
Not everyone is in a rush to pay off loans or get on the career path. I know this one Korean woman who worked on a cruise ship, and ended up marrying a coworker there. I'd say many who are fresh out of college have no idea what they want to do with life, so getting a different experience can help with that. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| She had a good time? What cruise ship job did she have? |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
| World Traveler wrote: |
| For a college grad, working on a cruise ship wouldn't be worth it unless one is a talented musician (because for them the job conditions/remuneration is better), which you are not. The other jobs (those listed in the link you posted) comparatively suck. |
Not everyone is in a rush to pay off loans or get on the career path. I know this one Korean woman who worked on a cruise ship, and ended up marrying a coworker there. I'd say many who are fresh out of college have no idea what they want to do with life, so getting a different experience can help with that. |
I don't know man, working 70+ hours a week for $1,500 a month in a position that doesn't really help you build skills while sharing a bedroom? Money and career aside, it's not all that much fun, nor do you really have time to have fun given the hours you work. I'm all for trying new things, but I wouldn't recommend working on a cruise ship unless you're in a skills-related position (musicians seem to do very well). |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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That's what I'm saying. Musicians work three hours a day (for much more money) while cooks, housekeepers, etc. do twelve hours a day. This causes some of the other workers to hate the musicians. Then the musicians (those brave enough anyways) point to their instrument and say, "You want to try playing it?"
For musicians, it is career progression because they can get that experience on their resume then use that to get a (usually unionized) touring broadway musical job which pays even more.
Some people say musicians can't really make money aside from big name rock stars, but that is not really true. There are middle class jobs out there as well. One example is teaching guitar lessons. $25 per half hour ($50 an hour) is a lot of dough.
That said, it's a competitive field. High level musical skills take years to attain. Unless you couldn't picture yourself doing anything else for the rest of your life, it's probably a bad idea to pursue it. (And if you haven't started young, it may be too late to get good enough to beat out the competition.) |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
That's what I'm saying. Musicians work three hours a day (for much more money) while cooks, housekeepers, etc. do twelve hours a day. This causes some of the other workers to hate the musicians. Then the musicians (those brave enough anyways) point to their instrument and say, "You want to try playing it?"
For musicians, it is career progression because they can get that experience on their resume then use that to get a (usually unionized) touring broadway musical job which pays even more.
Some people say musicians can't really make money aside from big name rock stars, but that is not really true. There are middle class jobs out there as well. One example is teaching guitar lessons. $25 per half hour ($50 an hour) is a lot of dough.
That said, it's a competitive field. High level musical skills take years to attain. Unless you couldn't picture yourself doing anything else for the rest of your life, it's probably a bad idea to pursue it. (And if you haven't started young, it may be too late to get good enough to beat out the competition.) |
I know two guys who worked as ship musicians. While both were talented, I don't know that they were infinitely more talented than your average music performance major. One attended Northwestern, one Eastern Tennessee State. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Right. But a music major grad is pretty good compared to the population as a whole. They can sight read music well. (Most guitarists can't.) I heard majoring in music is quite rigorous. Not many choose that major in the first place and some of those who do switch out of it (maybe to something somewhat related like music therapy, but still...).
And don't most schools require an audition to become a music major? So many who try out don't make the cut. So it's safe to say by the time they were towards the end of high school, they were already pretty good. The music performance major took them to the next level. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:31 am Post subject: |
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Guess I am still here. Renewed. Ha ha.
I read online somewhere just some chatting, but a couple of folks mentioned some recruiters having less applicants than before. Not sure how scientific that is though.
Anyways, I'm curious how easy folks are finding things when they are applying for new jobs nowadays? |
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