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bigverne
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| They are learning in the 'same safe environment.' The entire episode is a fraud based on lies. Contrary to what these protestors are saying, it is they who seem to have quite a bit of 'black privilege.' The privilege to lie, swear at professors (in the case of Yale), scream racial abuse at white students, and all without being held responsible. If it wasn't for affirmative action and pseudo degrees like Black Studies most of them wouldn't even be at college. |
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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:09 am Post subject: |
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| sirius black wrote: |
These black students asking for the same equal freedom to learn in the same safe environment as others.
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Black students already have "the same equal freedom to learn in the same safe environment as others." Actually they have more "equality" since the standards for their acceptance in those universities was much lower than those for whites or Asians.College campuses in the US are not hostile to blacks. These kids are receiving heavily subsidized educations at places such as Yale and Amherst.
If most of these kids were honest with themselves they would admit that they had no business ever being admitted into those schools in the first place. It was their race that got them in. Have you seen some of their demands: University president should apologize for his white privilege, mandatory diversity classes for all undergrads, the firing of certain administrators, an increase of black faculty to 10% (good luck with that) oh and of course more money. |
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sirius black
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:36 am Post subject: |
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That's your opinion. Its not a fact. There are thousands of college campuses for one. You don't live their lives second. Its very presumptious of you to think that. I don't know what the various black students endure. People were saying the same when women were discriminated against or faced certain unique issues on college campuses years ago and perhaps still do. Same with gays on campuses. I know at my school they had to have a faculty member pick up their mail because there were rumors some students were watching to see who got the mail at the gay students association mail box. I didn't realize that nor their unique issues.
Groups of this size and groups with a unique history simply do not make arbitrary demands and protest. Its simply not the case.
I have not seen any demands or concerns I would consider too far. At times I've seen things that I would deem too much. For example the progrssesive, affirmation of sexual contact in California universities where a guy has to consistently have her say yes, when the intimacy goes further. I have to assume most of the women on campus are chuckling at that. But maybe it is an issue.
Anyway, if black athletes get involved, its moot. They WILL get what they want. And some of you can talk about being stern and if you were the university president you wouldn't do whatever when in reality you wouldn't say a darn thing...lol. Too much money and power the other way. Its more than the tens if not hundreds of millions that you lose.
I like seeing student activism. It was this kind of activism that helped end the Vietnam war in the '70s, divesture pressure from a then apartheid South Africa in the '80s (although judging from the comments on here I'd guess some of you were against both those things...lol).
I hope this activism extends into non campus things. We could have used more of that to stay out of Iraq. |
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radcon
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:05 am Post subject: |
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| sirius black wrote: |
That's your opinion. Its not a fact. There are thousands of college campuses for one. You don't live their lives second. Its very presumptious of you to think that. I don't know what the various black students endure. People were saying the same when women were discriminated against or faced certain unique issues on college campuses years ago and perhaps still do. Same with gays on campuses. I know at my school they had to have a faculty member pick up their mail because there were rumors some students were watching to see who got the mail at the gay students association mail box. I didn't realize that nor their unique issues.
Groups of this size and groups with a unique history simply do not make arbitrary demands and protest. Its simply not the case.
I have not seen any demands or concerns I would consider too far. At times I've seen things that I would deem too much. For example the progrssesive, affirmation of sexual contact in California universities where a guy has to consistently have her say yes, when the intimacy goes further. I have to assume most of the women on campus are chuckling at that. But maybe it is an issue.
Anyway, if black athletes get involved, its moot. They WILL get what they want. And some of you can talk about being stern and if you were the university president you wouldn't do whatever when in reality you wouldn't say a darn thing...lol. Too much money and power the other way. Its more than the tens if not hundreds of millions that you lose.
I like seeing student activism. It was this kind of activism that helped end the Vietnam war in the '70s, divesture pressure from a then apartheid South Africa in the '80s (although judging from the comments on here I'd guess some of you were against both those things...lol).
I hope this activism extends into non campus things. We could have used more of that to stay out of Iraq. |
It's a fact that these universities let black students in when they are not as qualified as other races. Is that not "black privilege?" I was an undergrad once. Not in my wildest dreams was I qualified to decide who should be hired as a professor of that I should have a say who the university president should be. Those are ridiculous demands.
Sports are important to varying degress on campus. At Yale, not so much. If the Mizzou football team wasn't having a losing season, no way those "activists" would threaten to boycott. Football will be dead in 20 years anyway. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:15 am Post subject: |
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Bitch, moan, celebrate, whatever one wishes but potentially the sports programs, potentially the football and basketball teams have the most untapped power in college.
The real fear is that they are now recognizing it. Unless these schools are willing to forego tens of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions if you count the amount of alumni donations based on sports. Billions as a collective if you count the amount the NCAA brings in as a whole, then we had better start listening.
Women were simply asking for gender equality in pay and access and promotions. Gays were asking for the same thing as straight. These black students asking for the same equal freedom to learn in the same safe environment as others.
Simple really. The former two utilized their collective economic and political strength to achieve it. These students are doing the same. Its America at its finest.  |
A couple of things are off here. First of all in the former two movements you list above (the women's and gay movements)...these were nationwide. This is one university...you are getting a little ahead of yourself here.
Secondly the entire NCAA is not and is never going to stop playing. Do you really think that all those students who have a shot or even a hope at a shot at a pro team are going to tell pro scouts..."Sorry I can't show you my stuff, we are on a boycott right now"?
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| If the Mizzou football team wasn't having a losing season, no way those "activists" would threaten to boycott |
Mr. radcon who posted this quote above has it right. |
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Plain Meaning
Joined: 18 Oct 2014
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Immigrant Interloper Widens the Narrative
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“Before delivering my modest message,” [Rupert] Murdoch joked at the outset of his address accepting the Hudson Institute's Global Leadership Award, “I feel obliged to alert college students, progressive academics and all other deeply sensitive souls that these words may contain phrases and ideas that challenge your prejudices — in other words, I formally declare this room an ‘unsafe space.’”
After a few words of praise for former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who had just introduced him to the hawkish think-tank crowd, Murdoch quickly pivoted to a sweeping indictment of U.S. foreign policy under Barack Obama, though he did not mention the president by name.
“For a U.S. secretary of state to suggest that Islamic terrorists had a ‘rationale’ in slaughtering journalists is one of the low points of recent Western diplomacy and it is indicative of a serious malaise,” Murdoch said, referring to Kerry’s recent mangled attempt to draw a distinction between the assault on the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo and the more recent Paris attacks. “For America to be embarrassed by its exceptionalism is itself exceptional and absolutely unacceptable.” (Kerry quickly walked back those comments, remarking the next day that “such atrocities can never be rationalized, and we can never allow them to be rationalized.”)
Murdoch also laid out a mission for the next U.S. president, according to a copy of his prepared remarks.
“For America to have a sense of direction, two conditions are essential: A U.S. leader must understand, be proud of and assert the American personality,” he said, noting that Kissinger had offered a forthright defense of American exceptionalism in his book “World Order.”
“An identity crisis is not a starting point for any journey; and secondly, there must be clear goals informed by values and by a realization of the extraordinary potential of its people,” Murdoch continued.
He then offered a brief tour of 20th century diplomatic and military history, hailing the U.S. role in defeating Japan during World War II and standing up to North Korea — fortitude he said the United States had lost in recent years in favor of a culture of self-obsession.
“The left seemed to be happy for the incarceration of millions, whether in Vietnam under Ho or in China under Mao,” he said. “Why agonize over inhumanity when you could blithely celebrate yourself?”
Praising Kissinger’s role in nudging China toward a market economy, which he called “a modern miracle” that had lifted hundreds of millions of people out of poverty, Murdoch said, “this fundamental, irrefutable truth must be denied by those who despise America and detest economic freedom.”
“The soft left,” he added, “cannot countenance that remarkable human success.” |
I even heard someone say the Left was happy for the incarceration of those in Iraq under Saddam Hussein, and that is of course why those safe-space supporting latte-sipping protesters are hurting America in its effort to destroy ISIS. |
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Enrico Palazzo
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| Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| This thread violates on many different levels. For starters, the title does that on its own. |
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