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GENO123



Joined: 28 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jlb wrote:
What business are you referring to? I've never been a recruiter and don't plan to be in the future.


you don't write all those books advertising esl Korea?

Anyway hopefully you can provide answers to a few questions.


Anyway how much is 2.7m 2.8m take home in US dollars?

Do universities allow extra jobs?

If you can a FAQ in your books I wonder if you wouldn't consider adding the above.

I can ask them over and over again to make them more frequent if you would like?

Thank you in advance


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jlb



Joined: 18 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I've written some books.

Deductions on salary in Korea are standard. Google them. Then, Google the currency conversion.

Extra jobs. Some do, some don't. Maybe 1/2, 1/2. But, most places have enough OT floating around that even if they don't, it's not really a big issue.
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GENO123



Joined: 28 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jlb wrote:
Yes, I've written some books.

Deductions on salary in Korea are standard. Google them. Then, Google the currency conversion.

Extra jobs. Some do, some don't. Maybe 1/2, 1/2. But, most places have enough OT floating around that even if they don't, it's not really a big issue.


serious conflict of interest there - no?


Does it say in the contract A can not work for outside parties w/o the express permission of the University or some other mumbo jumbo?




2.8 million won is 2393.18 in US dollars

2.7 million won is 2307.71

even less with the conversion charge.


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jlb



Joined: 18 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conflict: No.

Permission: Same as any other teaching job in Korea when you're on an E1/E2 visa.

There's this new thing these days called "Google." I think it could really help you.

Over and out for me.
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GENO123



Joined: 28 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jlb wrote:
Conflict: No.

Permission: Same as any other teaching job in Korea when you're on an E1/E2 visa.

There's this new thing these days called "Google." I think it could really help you.

Over and out for me.


I think you make money off of snake oil .

And if someone is on an F Visa?

Thanks for the advice about google thanks to you I now know about it. Maybe for your next business plan you can write book about the web site and charge people ten bucks for it.

I used it to come up with these numbers :

2.8 million won is 2393.18 in US dollars

2.7 million won is 2307.71

even less with the conversion charge.


I always said failure to answer = unwillingness to answer.
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goat



Joined: 23 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GENO123 wrote:
jlb wrote:
University jobs in Korea are potentially really lucrative. Anyone who says otherwise is kind of delusional, perhaps.

10 years in Korea, going home to Canada in a month with $220,000 USD in the bank.

http://freedomthroughpassiveincome.com/expat-finance-wealthy-english-teacher/


Cause you have a lucrative business in getting teachers to Korea? I think your info is kind of tainted. Deep conflict of interest.

There is so many people into "blood money". Korean esl attract those who would be into organized crime except they are afraid of getting caught or into infomericals except they are not telegenic enough.

What do you think of Ninja teacher?.

Failure to answer = unwillingness to answer.

At any rate how much is 2.7 2.8 in US dollars


Bologna! Korea attracts those that would be into organized crime is the stupidest thing I've heard of. Horse Pooky
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goat



Joined: 23 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jlb wrote:
University jobs in Korea are potentially really lucrative. Anyone who says otherwise is kind of delusional, perhaps.

10 years in Korea, going home to Canada in a month with $220,000 USD in the bank.

http://freedomthroughpassiveincome.com/expat-finance-wealthy-english-teacher/


Congratulations!

I agree. Most of the good university teachers can live on the money they make during the winter and summer breaks while saving their regular salary; that is, if they so choose. 5~10 million extra yearly isn't a problem for the GOOD teachers. This more than covers what doing outside privates would earn. Plus, they don't have to do the run around.
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GENO123



Joined: 28 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

goat wrote:
GENO123 wrote:
jlb wrote:
University jobs in Korea are potentially really lucrative. Anyone who says otherwise is kind of delusional, perhaps.

10 years in Korea, going home to Canada in a month with $220,000 USD in the bank.

http://freedomthroughpassiveincome.com/expat-finance-wealthy-english-teacher/


Cause you have a lucrative business in getting teachers to Korea? I think your info is kind of tainted. Deep conflict of interest.

There is so many people into "blood money". Korean esl attract those who would be into organized crime except they are afraid of getting caught or into infomericals except they are not telegenic enough.

What do you think of Ninja teacher?.

Failure to answer = unwillingness to answer.

At any rate how much is 2.7 2.8 in US dollars


Bologna! Korea attracts those that would be into organized crime is the stupidest thing I've heard of. Horse Pooky
they dont have the guts for it
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GENO123



Joined: 28 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

goat wrote:
jlb wrote:
University jobs in Korea are potentially really lucrative. Anyone who says otherwise is kind of delusional, perhaps.

10 years in Korea, going home to Canada in a month with $220,000 USD in the bank.

http://freedomthroughpassiveincome.com/expat-finance-wealthy-english-teacher/


Congratulations!

I agree. Most of the good university teachers can live on the money they make during the winter and summer breaks while saving their regular salary; that is, if they so choose. 5~10 million extra yearly isn't a problem for the GOOD teachers. This more than covers what doing outside privates would earn. Plus, they don't have to do the run around.



3m a month all together no severance. 3 years ago.

Overtime. Especially the better stuff has and is on the way out.

Someone can just live off the money they make during vacations? How does that work?
In fact how do any of your numbers work?
Wow. The more you guys post the worse you look. As always failure to answer = unwillingness to answer.
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frankhenry



Joined: 13 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

University, Masters, 12 hrs., 3.6 salary, .5 housing allowance, optional opportunities for overtime, 16 weeks vacation..real time vacation.

Loving it"
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GENO123



Joined: 28 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Severence?

Are f visas allowed to work extra? This is imporant because even at 3.9 you are going to struggle if one has a family. How much time correcting tests and essays?

Just for academic purposes.

And are yonseis conditions at all reflective of other universities?

Seoul national
Korea
Y

If by chance one is at hufs then you you can get fired if students dont sign up for your classes.


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frankhenry



Joined: 13 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GENO123 wrote:
Severence?

Are f visas allowed to work extra? This is imporant because even at 3.9 you are going to struggle if one has a family. How much time correcting tests and essays?

Just for academic purposes.

And are yonseis conditions at all reflective of other universities?


Severance, no.

I have never asked about working extra outside of the university. My wife and I live well on the 3.9, and have money left over, even after vacations. She works but we put that money aside. It is never touched. Absolutely no financial struggles here. We could easily get by on a million less each month.

Correcting tests and essays, and grading is done mostly during office hours, 3 hours each week. Seldom is any work done outside of this time.
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GENO123



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Close to minimal expenses !
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frankhenry



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought my salary and housing was up there with the average Korean salary.
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frankhenry



Joined: 13 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GENO123 wrote:
Severence?

Are f visas allowed to work extra? This is imporant because even at 3.9 you are going to struggle if one has a family. How much time correcting tests and essays?

Just for academic purposes.

And are yonseis conditions at all reflective of other universities?

Seoul national
Korea
Y

If by chance one is at hufs then you you can get fired if students dont sign up for your classes.


4.1 when housing is included.
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