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jgrant85
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 Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 5:26 pm Post subject: Can a naturalized US citizen teach English? |
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My wife was born and raised in the Philippines and obtained her bachelors degree from there. We are both currently in the US studying for our masters degrees in English education, after which we plan to go back to Korea. She also recently obtained her full US citizenship.
I know public schools are more strict since they require teachers to have been raised since the 7th grade in an English-speaking country, but do you think it would be possible for my wife to get a hagwon job? I mean legally with her own E2 visa. |
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drcrazy
Joined: 19 Feb 2003
Location: Pusan. Yes, that's right. Pusan NOT Busan. I ain't never been to no place called Busan
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:09 am Post subject: Re: Can a naturalized US citizen teach English? |
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| jgrant85 wrote: |
My wife was born and raised in the Philippines and obtained her bachelors degree from there. We are both currently in the US studying for our masters degrees in English education, after which we plan to go back to Korea. She also recently obtained her full US citizenship.
I know public schools are more strict since they require teachers to have been raised since the 7th grade in an English-speaking country, but do you think it would be possible for my wife to get a hagwon job? I mean legally with her own E2 visa. |
There are many English teachers here in Korea who are from the Philippines, and that is their one any only nationality. Usually they have an MA and they teach in Universities with E-1 Visas. |
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jgrant85
Joined: 31 May 2009
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:52 pm Post subject: Re: Can a naturalized US citizen teach English? |
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| drcrazy wrote: |
| jgrant85 wrote: |
My wife was born and raised in the Philippines and obtained her bachelors degree from there. We are both currently in the US studying for our masters degrees in English education, after which we plan to go back to Korea. She also recently obtained her full US citizenship.
I know public schools are more strict since they require teachers to have been raised since the 7th grade in an English-speaking country, but do you think it would be possible for my wife to get a hagwon job? I mean legally with her own E2 visa. |
There are many English teachers here in Korea who are from the Philippines, and that is their one any only nationality. Usually they have an MA and they teach in Universities with E-1 Visas. |
I've heard that nowadays universities are still giving the E2 visa to foreign English teachers, regardless of whether or not they're a "professor" in their contract.
Do you happen to know if a typical contract offered to a Filipino is fair? From our previous experience, many Koreans tend to treat Filipinos as second-class citizens and sort of cheat them out of receiving fair pay. |
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drcrazy
Joined: 19 Feb 2003
Location: Pusan. Yes, that's right. Pusan NOT Busan. I ain't never been to no place called Busan
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:20 am Post subject: Re: Can a naturalized US citizen teach English? |
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| jgrant85 wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| jgrant85 wrote: |
My wife was born and raised in the Philippines and obtained her bachelors degree from there. We are both currently in the US studying for our masters degrees in English education, after which we plan to go back to Korea. She also recently obtained her full US citizenship.
I know public schools are more strict since they require teachers to have been raised since the 7th grade in an English-speaking country, but do you think it would be possible for my wife to get a hagwon job? I mean legally with her own E2 visa. |
There are many English teachers here in Korea who are from the Philippines, and that is their one any only nationality. Usually they have an MA and they teach in Universities with E-1 Visas. |
I've heard that nowadays universities are still giving the E2 visa to foreign English teachers, regardless of whether or not they're a "professor" in their contract.
Do you happen to know if a typical contract offered to a Filipino is fair? From our previous experience, many Koreans tend to treat Filipinos as second-class citizens and sort of cheat them out of receiving fair pay. |
I imagine that all universities would be more than happy to give everyone an E-1. It is not the universities that cause the problems. It is immigration offices. Some offices follow the rule and University = E-1, some do not follow the rules and give E-2. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: Can a naturalized US citizen teach English? |
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| jgrant85 wrote: |
My wife was born and raised in the Philippines and obtained her bachelors degree from there. We are both currently in the US studying for our masters degrees in English education, after which we plan to go back to Korea. She also recently obtained her full US citizenship.
I know public schools are more strict since they require teachers to have been raised since the 7th grade in an English-speaking country, but do you think it would be possible for my wife to get a hagwon job? I mean legally with her own E2 visa. |
An E2 visa as an English teacher requires education from year 7 through to completion of the undergraduate degree be completed in one of the "approved" 7 countries.
Having said that, this check is usually not made other than for the BA degree and passport.
With her undergrad being from the Philippines it is unlikely she will be able to get an E2 as an English teacher even with a US passport.
With a US passport and US masters then work on an E1 (visiting professor) may be possible.
Alternatively, if you are on an E2 she will get an F3. She will find work even though it won't be legal (since a hagwon won't have to worry about her visa or ARC.
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:57 pm Post subject: Re: Can a naturalized US citizen teach English? |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
With her undergrad being from the Philippines it is unlikely she will be able to get an E2 as an English teacher even with a US passport.
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Unless she has an English / education related degree and is a certified teacher.
IIRC, Korea is now issuing E-2s to citizens from a few more counties with the above addition to the rules. |
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Zackback
Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:34 am Post subject: Re: Can a naturalized US citizen teach English? |
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| IIRC, Korea is now issuing E-2s to citizens from a few more counties with the above addition to the rules. |
Are you sure about this? (proof) |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:49 am Post subject: |
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| Though she'll have a U.S. passport and a master's degree from America, I honestly think she'll be passed over for most of the good jobs since her first language isn't English. ESL is also going through drastic change in Korea, so I'd think long and hard about coming back to Korea if I were you. |
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: Can a naturalized US citizen teach English? |
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[quote="Zackback"]
| SeoulNate wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
| IIRC, Korea is now issuing E-2s to citizens from a few more counties with the above addition to the rules. |
Are you sure about this? (proof) |
It is on the official immigration website, but I do not know any personally.
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| Korea is also now accepting citizens of 4 additional countries for English teaching positions at primary and secondary schools nationwide - India, Malaysia, Philippines and Singapore. These are countries that have trade agreements with Korea. Requirements for applicants from these 4 countries are stricter than for the original 7 countries in that in addition to holding a Bachelor's degree or above, the degree must be in English studies and they must have a teaching degree/license from their home country. |
edit- above is from korea4expats. Official website has a wordy-er description. |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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There are many American and British teachers I've known who were born in another country and came to either as kids.
Generally, if you did your schooling (grade school and college) in one of the 7 countries and have a passport, where you were born has no bearing. In lieu of that I think its at least 10 years in country. |
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Majeh
Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:34 am Post subject: Naturalized US citizens teaching English in Korea |
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| If your wife has already started to pick up the American accent, that's would work in her favor. You mentioned that' both of you are working toward your M.A. in English education at an American university. The American graduate degree will help, but I don't know if Korean employers will recognize her Filipino undergraduate degree. |
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